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Other high profile cases / Re: The Lucy Letby trial
« Last post by nugnug on Today at 08:54 AM »
it say cleary there that letby wasnt there nurse involved
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Maybe they will declare it unsafe. It doesn't mean he's innocent.

I was referring to the time element. JB may be in a similar position upon a successful ccrc referral.

Awaiting longingly.
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You compound my point, a referral in 2021. He is still in prison and hasn't had an appeal at the COA

It's 2025 Steve.
Maybe they will declare it unsafe. It doesn't mean he's innocent.
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Did you watch the video? The reminiscences of the elderly, stories passed down to children and grandchildren. Youngsters feeling they're a part of something and not just a commodity. Of course, there are good adoptive parents, but adoptees may lose out or feel like they're losing out and experience a sense of alienation, as it appears with the White House Farm murders case.
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I'm not sure what you mean. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-43216615

You compound my point, a referral in 2021. He is still in prison and hasn't had an appeal at the COA

It's 2025 Steve.
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Even on the event of a successful referral it may take years for him to get to the COA.

Although we can't draw comparisons between individual cases. Colin Norris, the convicted serial killer nurse got a referral in 2001 and four years on still hasn't been to the COA.

I'm not sure what you mean. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-43216615
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Well, Northerners are a bit thick, don't you know. We have to rely on the knowledge and wisdom of Southerners to get through the day.

Everything south of Sheffield is midlands to me until I'm in London if I am honest!
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Yes, if they decide against referring now, I think it would be very unlikely that his lawyer can persuade them to change their mind. Following that, his only recourse it to apply for a Judicial Review, which I am sure his lawyer will do, but once that fails, all he can then do is submit a further CCRC application!

Even on the event of a successful referral it may take years for him to get to the COA.

Although we can't draw comparisons between individual cases. Colin Norris, the convicted serial killer nurse got a referral in 2001 and four years on still hasn't been to the COA.
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Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion / Re: Why no covert, did SJ miss a trick?
« Last post by Steve_uk on Yesterday at 10:42 PM »
No GDPR back in 1985/6.
Still inadmissible in court I would have thought. Have you been watching too many US detective shows?
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I think it is pretty much from his perspective make or break time as a CAT A prisoner at 64 years old.

I think he is heading towards the legacy of a potential MOJ, not something I imagine he relishes.

Yes, if they decide against referring now, I think it would be very unlikely that his lawyer can persuade them to change their mind. Following that, his only recourse it to apply for a Judicial Review, which I am sure his lawyer will do, but once that fails, all he can then do is submit a further CCRC application!
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