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It's possible his confidence was riding high and he just expected to be believed.

Perhaps the " what if I'm suspected " plan didn't come into effect. Perhaps no covering up was thought of as he didn't render it necessary

And initially if you believe him guilty, he was judged plausible, apart from SBJ. Especially from a police perspective. And relative, until the latter did a " personal investigation "

When it did perhaps it was just a case of " trying to figure a way round it "


I'd say that pretty much sums it up!
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Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion / Re: The Jury: Murder Trial
« Last post by Jane on Today at 08:18 AM »
In the real trial the verdict was manslaughter Snow, and in the mock trial one groups verdict was murder and the other manslaughter. To me this was a relatively simple case what happens in a much more complex one?

I did not like that in one group one person had far too much influence over the others.

Rob! This is life!! What you've just drawn attention to plays out everywhere. It's going on here, right now. There will always be a personality type which takes over and such a type will influence others, for good or bad. In a situation in which no one had opinions, there are not likely to be conclusion arrived at.
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It's possible his confidence was riding high and he just expected to be believed.

Perhaps the " what if I'm suspected " plan didn't come into effect. Perhaps no covering up was thought of as he didn't render it necessary

And initially if you believe him guilty, he was judged plausible, apart from SBJ. Especially from a police perspective. And relative, until the latter did a " personal investigation "

When it did perhaps it was just a case of " trying to figure a way round it "

Miller, Bews & Stan Jones had doubts straight away. Probably others such as Myall.

The raid team would not have an opinion. There job was to enter & negate any threat inside.

Taff supported murder/suicide but had nothing to convince the relatives, other police officers & then Ainsley.
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Think if gulity just probably expected to be believed.

Had the advantage of Shelias mental health to frame as the alternative suspect. I believe if anything he just heavily rode it out on this aspect alone.

However he didn't have the status " of genuine guy" many a villager, relative, employers of WHF, school friends etc etc al

There is no point saying 'if guilty'. There are nearly 100 pieces of sourced incriminating forensic evidence. Not disputed by the CT, except the silencer. 

But it is an interesting case, which is why I like to discuss it.

He expected to be believed as had several hours and days to insinuate Sheila unopposed. He had also staged the crime scene.
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Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion / Re: The Jury: Murder Trial
« Last post by Rob_ on Yesterday at 11:00 PM »
In what way Rob?

In the real trial the verdict was manslaughter Snow, and in the mock trial one groups verdict was murder and the other manslaughter. To me this was a relatively simple case what happens in a much more complex one?

I did not like that in one group one person had far too much influence over the others.
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Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion / Re: The Jury: Murder Trial
« Last post by snow66! on Yesterday at 10:15 PM »
I was quite shocked by the whole thing Snow, the jury system is not fit for purpose.
In what way Rob?
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Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion / Re: Video confirmation Bamber had an AM.
« Last post by ILB on Yesterday at 10:15 PM »
Impossible to be all over the place. He either -

Phoned his AM & let it answer. Phoned Julie at 3.00am and then the police at 3.26am.

Or just phoned Julie at 3.00am & the police at 3.26am.

Either way he believed he had minimal or zero time restrictions.

It's possible his confidence was riding high and he just expected to be believed.

Perhaps the " what if I'm suspected " plan didn't come into effect. Perhaps no covering up was thought of as he didn't render it necessary

And initially if you believe him guilty, he was judged plausible, apart from SBJ. Especially from a police perspective. And relative, until the latter did a " personal investigation "

When it did perhaps it was just a case of " trying to figure a way round it "

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Think if gulity just probably expected to be believed.

Had the advantage of Shelias mental health to frame as the alternative suspect. I believe if anything he just heavily rode it out on this aspect alone.

However he didn't have the status " of genuine guy" many a villager, relative, employers of WHF, school friends etc etc al
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Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion / Re: Video confirmation Bamber had an AM.
« Last post by Adam on Yesterday at 09:06 PM »
Poor Adam is all over the place Snow I wonder who he is defending?

Impossible to be all over the place. He either -

Phoned his AM & let it answer. Phoned Julie at 3.00am and then the police at 3.26am.

Or just phoned Julie at 3.00am & the police at 3.26am.

Either way he believed he had minimal or zero time restrictions.
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Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion / Re: Video confirmation Bamber had an AM.
« Last post by Rob_ on Yesterday at 09:00 PM »
Adam knows what I meant Rob. I wasn't sure if a call to an AM would be registered or not with BT if the phone wasn't picked up.

Poor Adam is all over the place Snow I wonder who he is defending?
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