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Title: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on July 28, 2016, 04:53:PM
On the thirtieth anniversary of the unexplained disappearance of estate agent Suzy Lampugh, he remains the prime suspect. Already incarcerated in Wakefield Prison's Monster Mansions for the murder of textile worker Shirley Banks there appears to be a similar modus operandi and type of woman to whom he is attracted. What induced this outwardly plausible man to attack women who rejected his advances- the excitement of the chase, trapped in a humdrum marriage or some psychological trauma experienced as a teenager on holiday in the Quantocks, or whether he just killed for kicks, the case of Suzy Lampugh remains officially unsolved with her 85-year-old father never giving up hope that one day her killer may be brought to justice.

https://youtu.be/7mnR-tT-0l8
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: nugnug on July 28, 2016, 05:20:PM
steve wright has also been linked to that murder.

i wonder weather it actuly was canan in the lamplugh case i know theres a lot of evdence opinting to him
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on July 28, 2016, 05:24:PM
steve wright has also been linked to that murder.

i wonder weather it actuly was canan in the lamplugh case i know theres a lot of evdence opinting to him
I will have to research him. There are similarities between Suzy Lampugh and Shirley Banks.

https://youtu.be/7FVdnDGXIHs
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on July 28, 2016, 05:30:PM
They had both worked on the QE2 for a period, though it doesn't say if they were colleagues. My own view is that John Cannan had suffered some kind of emotional trauma as a teenager on holiday in Somerset and had vowed revenge on women who crossed him, which inevitably they did as he became more possessive and they wanted out. I can't see any other explanation for his behaviour though undoubtedly there will be several propounded by more experienced in these matters than myself.  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1579710/Steve-Wright-did-not-kill-Suzy-Lamplugh.html
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on July 28, 2016, 06:00:PM
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/i-still-dont-know-what-happened-to-my-daughter-suzy-lamplughs-father-thirty-years-on-from-her-disappearance/ar-BBuXvoV?li=AAdeCd7&ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: David1819 on July 29, 2016, 06:13:PM
I believe JC is responsible for this however why is he not charged?
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: nugnug on July 29, 2016, 06:17:PM
thats what ive allways thought if there is as much evdence agianst him as they cliam and there seems to certanly be enough cercumstantiol evdence why hasnt he been chardged especaily as hes allready a convicted murderer you wouldent think obtaining a conviction would be that hard.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on July 29, 2016, 06:20:PM
They never like to prosecute without a body. I suppose the evidence was all circumstantial and given that's he's unlikely to get out anyway maybe the CPS are saving money.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: nugnug on July 29, 2016, 06:35:PM
she leagaly dead and theyve convicted people without a body before.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on July 29, 2016, 06:42:PM
she leagaly dead and theyve convicted people without a body before.
That's true but isn't that just a legal formality? It doesn't shore up the evidence against Cannan. It's still rare to prosecute without finding then body.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: nugnug on July 29, 2016, 06:47:PM
well nat frazer adrian prout they were both convicted without a body there was another guy in scotland also convicted without they dont really need a body or any forensic evdence if they have enough cercumstantiol evdence.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on July 29, 2016, 07:11:PM
well nat frazer adrian prout they were both convicted without a body there was another guy in scotland also convicted without they dont really need a body or any forensic evdence if they have enough cercumstantiol evdence.
That's true, though with Nat Frazer it was a struggle, and Adrian Prout confessed, which I can't see John Cannan doing.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: nugnug on July 29, 2016, 07:23:PM
prout confessed a year after hes conviction.

at the time he protested his innocence but he was convicted anyway frazer stil protests his innocence.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: David1819 on July 30, 2016, 01:28:AM
That's true, though with Nat Frazer it was a struggle, and Adrian Prout confessed, which I can't see John Cannan doing.

Apparently John Cannan will reveal all once his mother dies
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on July 30, 2016, 07:10:PM
Apparently John Cannan will reveal all once his mother dies
Yes I found that strange. Not empathizing with Suzy's mother but his own. Does this make him less of a psychopath I wonder?
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: David1819 on July 30, 2016, 08:02:PM
Yes I found that strange. Not empathizing with Suzy's mother but his own. Does this make him less of a psychopath I wonder?

If he does confess after his mother passes away. It only means he did not want his mother to know what he had done.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: David1819 on August 03, 2016, 07:17:PM
If he does confess after his mother passes away. It only means he did not want his mother to know what he had done.

It would not surprise me if his mother passes and then Cannan sais I didn't do anything  ::)
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on August 03, 2016, 07:40:PM
It would not surprise me if his mother passes and then Cannan sais I didn't do anything  ::)
John Cannan, Ted Bundy, Jeremy Bamber..welcome to the world of sociopathy where the world revolves around them and no-one else.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: David1819 on August 03, 2016, 09:02:PM
John Cannan, Ted Bundy, Jeremy Bamber..welcome to the world of sociopathy where the world revolves around them and no-one else.

Even if assume Jeremy is guilty. He is not on the same level of depravity as Ted Bundy.  Cannan could have matched or even surpassed Bundys kill count had he not been caught.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on August 03, 2016, 09:43:PM
Even if assume Jeremy is guilty. He is not on the same level of depravity as Ted Bundy.  Cannan could have matched or even surpassed Bundys kill count had he not been caught.
Cannan and Bundy killed for sexual gratification, Bamber for money. Bundy also practised cannibalism and necrophilia as did Luka Magnotta and Jeffrey Dahmer, the motive for which is beyond most people's comprehension.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: lookout on August 04, 2016, 10:46:AM
It wasn't JB who knew about owning half the land which AE and PE were farming !! Nor did JB know the full worth of the place. Relatives knew more than he did,so money didn't feature.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on August 04, 2016, 04:03:PM
It wasn't JB who knew about owning half the land which AE and PE were farming !! Nor did JB know the full worth of the place. Relatives knew more than he did,so money didn't feature.
Under the terms of the will Jeremy was tied to the Farm for the duration of his parents' lifetimes and I think Nevill realized his son had been snooping when he requested a new safe key from Barbara. If Nevill died and June survived the estate would pass to June, whom Jeremy believed had been stingy to him, and if both parents died Jeremy would have to share his inheritance with Sheila, and we know from Doris Foakes his opinion on that front. Only with the death of all five members of his family would he ensure the entire estate, which would simultaneously liberate him from the Farm and all the duties that entailed.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Jo on August 30, 2016, 09:35:AM
Steve Wright may have been the murderer of Natalie Pearman according to David Wilson but I haven't researched it, I saw it on a programme over the weekend.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on October 30, 2018, 05:58:PM
Apparently Police have a new lead and are digging under the garage of John Cannan's late mother's house in Sutton Coldfield. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/30/killing-suzy-lamplugh-women-estate-agent-murdered
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: lookout on October 30, 2018, 06:06:PM
Let's not forget that Steve Wright also knew Suzy when the three of them worked on the QEII.

Wright's father spoke out last year telling of his suspicions as his son had been on shore leave around the time that Suzy went missing.

 
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on October 30, 2018, 06:33:PM
Let's not forget that Steve Wright also knew Suzy when the three of them worked on the QEII.

Wright's father spoke out last year telling of his suspicions as his son had been on shore leave around the time that Suzy went missing.
Hi lookout it's good to see you posting again. It's interesting about the Wright connection but I still feel Canaan is the prime suspect.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: lookout on October 30, 2018, 07:19:PM
Hi lookout it's good to see you posting again. It's interesting about the Wright connection but I still feel Canaan is the prime suspect.





Thankyou Steve.
What I'd like to see are the E-Fit pics of the two men so I'm going to try and find them to compare with descriptions given.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: lookout on October 30, 2018, 07:49:PM
Steve,even Fred West was linked to her disappearance at one time.
Although thousands of people were questioned police omitted or overlooked the questioning of sexual offenders who'd been released at the time.
Neither had alarm bells rang after Cannan had been released in 1981 after a short sentence,though a serious charge of rape. He was never monitored after release and as a consequence had slipped through the net of the initial investigation.
Met police later had to apologise  for their missed opportunity after Rachel Banks was murdered.

 
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: lookout on October 30, 2018, 08:03:PM
I'm slightly on the fence with this case insomuch as police at the time of a review of Cannan had taken it upon themselves to say that " he was the only suspect " whereby the CPS had stated that there'd been insufficient evidence to charge him.
I await the findings of the excavation------of which there'd been one or two in the past,one being at a barracks but nothing was ever found after having used specialist equipment.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on October 31, 2018, 05:52:PM
I suppose some may wish for the definitive proof in the form of a body, though I have always disliked the Americanism "closure", as if it somehow alleviates the bereavement, the loss, the loneliness endured by the death of a loved one. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46036826

Suzy's parents died having never discovered the full truth. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/973418/murdered-suzy-lamplugh-father-dies-age-87-london-uk
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on November 01, 2018, 06:19:PM
There's more on the current situation here, with a mention of a possible Steve Wright connection: https://youtu.be/RiQzSXS9Rcc

..and the background to the Shirley Banks murder: https://youtu.be/VwjzZB_gZdY
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on November 05, 2018, 07:14:PM
I am beginning to doubt Suzy's body is at the location now being searched after Cannan's denial it is there. He evidently enjoys taunting Police and making them look fools. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7658830/john-cannan-broke-promise-to-find-suzy-lamplugh/
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: lookout on November 06, 2018, 08:51:AM
Either that Steve,or he didn't do it ? Remember JB's words " that's for you to find out ?".
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Caroline on November 06, 2018, 12:23:PM
Either that Steve,or he didn't do it ? Remember JB's words " that's for you to find out ?".

And find out - they did.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: lookout on November 06, 2018, 04:32:PM
And find out - they did.






Not always.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on July 03, 2019, 10:33:PM
Police are now searching an area in the small market town of Pershore, Worcestershire: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48859507
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Parky41 on July 03, 2019, 10:49:PM
John Cannan, Ted Bundy, Jeremy Bamber..welcome to the world of sociopathy where the world revolves around them and no-one else.

Luke Mitchell. IMO shows sociopathic tendancies.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Parky41 on July 03, 2019, 10:55:PM
Even if assume Jeremy is guilty. He is not on the same level of depravity as Ted Bundy.  Cannan could have matched or even surpassed Bundys kill count had he not been caught.

Not in the slightest on the same level. IMO a one of spree, centred on one purpose.
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on July 06, 2019, 08:15:AM
Given that Cannan is behind bars anyway isn't it rather a waste of taxpayers' money to prolong this investigation again? https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9438716/suzy-lamplughs-search-field-drakes-broughton/
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on December 17, 2020, 06:55:PM
If you have an hour to spare it might be worth watching, but nothing really new. https://www.my5.tv/the-vanishing-of-suzy-lamplugh
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on March 15, 2021, 07:25:PM
I wonder if there's any significance of Police urging people to come forward..https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-56400140
Title: Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
Post by: Steve_uk on January 22, 2022, 07:00:PM
He's a murderer, but did he kill Suzy..https://youtu.be/XQE6xQ-6HL4