Re: The murder of Jodi Jones

[gordo30]

It could happen to you I suppose if you have an obsession with knives and your girlfriend is murdered with a knife while meeting you. Seriously how many people would all the factors that convicted Luke apply to? This "it could happen to anyone" just isn't true. It would never happen to me.

We’re talking of a 14 year old! The word obsession is used to create an idea that Luke was always with a knife, except no one at school that day and the police that night found a knife on him! No witness has came forward to say that he had a knife on him that day at school.
We here that he put a knife to the throat of someone at cadets yet it wasn’t his knife!
There nothing to say he even met Jodi that evening, no evidence to prove anything. There are many people who could be described as being obsessed with knives and who might even need one but not Luke .

[gordo30]

This has probably never been mentioned before, but does anyone else get the impression that Corrine Mitchell might be into the occult/witchcraft? She strikes me as the type who would have a darkened house, dark curtains, spiritual ornaments and references to the occult in her house.  Does she have skulls and candles in her house? I’m just trying to pinpoint precisely where her son developed his interest and knowledge of satanism.  After watching her videos with James English, I got a very strong feeling that she’s into all of this.  I don’t know why.  I’d have said that even without the knowledge of what her son has done.  He must have developed this interest from somewhere.  His school jotters and knife pouch were covered in satanic slogans.  Even his writings during his time behind bars have suggested this, as has his desire to have satanic material delivered to him.  Is his mother a witch or something? She doesn’t look the full shilling.  She seems unhinged and I suspect she has an array of Ouija boards at her disposal

If so then how does the occult make a difference? Much of it is founded on the natural as opposed to the supernatural of secular religions we have come to live with in our day to day life’s. I’m more afraid of the fact that there are many people involved with the distribution and procurement of drugs in this case than I ever would be of someone who might believe in something others fear

[gordo30]

I see it as someone who believes something to be true and has the courage to stand up and say so. We all have to stand up for what we believe including those who believe Luke to be guilty, don’t we? I for one still can’t say one way or another but I respect Sandra for taking a stand and fighting for what she believes all these years. But if it is proven to her that Luke is in fact guilty, I’m sure that would be a dark day, but her work over the past 16 years is more than just Luke.

What makes you say Luke couldn’t care if he got out or not?

Exactly why we need more people willing to stick their necks  out for people wrongfully accused

[sandra L]

... However, she’s clearly built up an extremely strong relationship with his mother over the years which in my opinion is why she is still continuing to work on it.  Clearly, Corrine is her friend and she would be doing her an injustice if she dropped the case.  Dropping the case would jeopardise their relationship.  She’s clearly not wanting to do this.  Anyone looking at such a case has to do so from an objective standpoint.  How can she be objective when Corrine is clearly her best buddy?  Is Sandra going to dispute this?

Yes, Sandra most certainly is! I do not have an "extremely strong relationship" with Corinne, she is not "my friend,"  or my "best buddy." My reasons for continuing with Luke's case have nothing to do with any relationship I have with Corinne - good or bad.

[sandra L]

This has probably never been mentioned before, but does anyone else get the impression that Corrine Mitchell might be into the occult/witchcraft? She strikes me as the type who would have a darkened house, dark curtains, spiritual ornaments and references to the occult in her house.  Does she have skulls and candles in her house? I’m just trying to pinpoint precisely where her son developed his interest and knowledge of satanism.  After watching her videos with James English, I got a very strong feeling that she’s into all of this.  I don’t know why.  I’d have said that even without the knowledge of what her son has done.  He must have developed this interest from somewhere.  His school jotters and knife pouch were covered in satanic slogans.  Even his writings during his time behind bars have suggested this, as has his desire to have satanic material delivered to him.  Is his mother a witch or something? She doesn’t look the full shilling.  She seems unhinged and I suspect she has an array of Ouija boards at her disposal.

I see you've returned to the armchair. This is utter conjecture, based on nothing at all (other than a warped imagination). Corinne Mitchell has no such interests, her house was nothing like you suggest here - she had lace curtains in her living room windows, plants everywhere, a beautifully kept garden. To my knowledge, she never had a single Ouija board at her disposal, far less an array of them.

I, however, have spiritual ornaments and candles in my house, but I'm not into the occult in any way.

[sandra L]

She's a gypo. So yeah probably into all that.

A what Lithium? Do you mean a gypsy? Wrong again. She grew up in Corstorphine, where here parents ran a small business. They later bought Scotts Caravans, where they sold caravans as well as camping and caravan supplies. They were never travelling people of any sort and Corinne never has been (unless you count holidays, in which case, that's all of us). Once more, just making stuff up.

But even if she had been a gypsy (which she's not), what on earth would that have to do with anything?

[sandra L]

The fact that learning the right person has been behind bars for this crime and there isn't a murderer on the loose and an innocent guy has lost half of his life would be a "dark day" to Sandra says it all really.  Surely personal-agendas aside, we're all HOPING it was Luke? Right?!?

It might have "said it all" if it had been me who said it would be a "dark day" for me if Luke was proven to be guilty, but it wasn't me, was it?

I'm on record many, many times saying my search is for the truth. If that truth turns out to be that Luke Mitchell is guilty as charged, then so be it - the reason I do what I do is because we don't know for sure, because of all the unanswered questions. In my opinion, that's not justice and we should never accept it as such. It's not only Luke's case I say this about - it's every case I become involved with.

Simon Hall admitted his guilt and subsequently took his own life over it, and Sandra still refuses to admit she was wrong.

Wrong again! The details of the confession were never made public. It was never revealed whether Simon Hall had legal representation when making the confession. It was never revealed whether he had been assessed by a psychiatrist or psychologist or what his mental state was in the lead up to the confession - was he in sound mind, fully aware of what he was saying/doing? I can see no reason why those details were not publicly known -- they should have been, in order to confirm that the confession actually fitted the details of the crime and that he was not, for example, suffering some sort of mental breakdown and just saying anything.

Once again, I'm searching for the truth. If the confession contains details that all fit with the crime and it can be shown that he was in sound mind and was fully aware of what he was saying and doing, then it would be reasonable to accept that he did, in fact, commit the murder and managed to conceal that fact for all those years, aided by a bungled police investigation which brought a case lacking the necessary elements of proof (even Keir Starmer admitted that, without the fibre evidence, "the case disappears.")

[Bullseye]

The fact that learning the right person has been behind bars for this crime and there isn't a murderer on the loose and an innocent guy has lost half of his life would be a "dark day" to Sandra says it all really.  Surely personal-agendas aside, we're all HOPING it was Luke? Right?!?


Simon Hall admitted his guilt and subsequently took his own life over it, and Sandra still refuses to admit she was wrong.

You make me laugh, You like to put your own spin on stuff people say don’t you lol  you really don’t help yourself. I only meant it would be hard, as I’m sure it would be for all involved in the Luke campaign.

If it was shown Luke did it and it had been the right person all along, another life was not ruined and a killer was not free all this time, I think everyone, including Luke campaigners and those that had any doubt, would take some sort of comfort from that. But it’s how he got found guilty that’s at the root of it all and that will never change, there was doubt for many from the start due to how the whole case was handled start to end. That’s what the real fight is about imo, trying to make sure the same mistakes are not made again.

[Caroline]

It might have "said it all" if it had been me who said it would be a "dark day" for me if Luke was proven to be guilty, but it wasn't me, was it?

I'm on record many, many times saying my search is for the truth. If that truth turns out to be that Luke Mitchell is guilty as charged, then so be it - the reason I do what I do is because we don't know for sure, because of all the unanswered questions. In my opinion, that's not justice and we should never accept it as such. It's not only Luke's case I say this about - it's every case I become involved with.


Wrong again! The details of the confession were never made public. It was never revealed whether Simon Hall had legal representation when making the confession. It was never revealed whether he had been assessed by a psychiatrist or psychologist or what his mental state was in the lead up to the confession - was he in sound mind, fully aware of what he was saying/doing? I can see no reason why those details were not publicly known -- they should have been, in order to confirm that the confession actually fitted the details of the crime and that he was not, for example, suffering some sort of mental breakdown and just saying anything.

Once again, I'm searching for the truth. If the confession contains details that all fit with the crime and it can be shown that he was in sound mind and was fully aware of what he was saying and doing, then it would be reasonable to accept that he did, in fact, commit the murder and managed to conceal that fact for all those years, aided by a bungled police investigation which brought a case lacking the necessary elements of proof (even Keir Starmer admitted that, without the fibre evidence, "the case disappears.")

I think Steph has made it clear to you many times that the confession was legitimate. There are things you say you can't reveal in your recent posts for whatever reasons, perhaps you should respect other people's reasoning for doing the same. There is no reason for you to know.

[TheArmchairDetective]

Damn, that bedroom absolutely reeks of aggression.  The colour of the paint on the walls and the amount of items, including wall posters and pictures that are actually in that bedroom give it an unhealthy vibration.  It’s actually like a den rather than a bedroom.  The sword, and what appears to be a knife above it, are hanging like trophies.  His so called love of horses appears to on display, but I am actually getting more of a power thing from this than love.  Horses can mean power, as they provide the rider with authority and strength.  The overall ‘vibe’ and feel to this bedroom is dark.  The blood red wall paint does little but add a sense of unease.

I am by no means psychic, and of course what I have said above is simply an opinion - I do feel uneasy looking at this bedroom.  It’s dark.  It’s dingy.  It’s cluttered.  It’s red.  It shouts pain and aggression to me, if I am honest.  I have seen young people’s bedrooms before.   This has to be the first time I’ve felt uneasy looking at one.

It shouts death

[TheArmchairDetective]

The Diesel flag probably replaces skulls and animal carcasses that were there before the Police came

[nugnug]

She's a gypo. So yeah probably into all that.

i thin tht coment says more about you.

[nugnug]

wht the fuck h the decore of a house got to do with weather they comited a crime or not.

[nugnug]

Damn, that bedroom absolutely reeks of aggression.  The colour of the paint on the walls and the amount of items, including wall posters and pictures that are actually in that bedroom give it an unhealthy vibration.  It’s actually like a den rather than a bedroom.  The sword, and what appears to be a knife above it, are hanging like trophies.  His so called love of horses appears to on display, but I am actually getting more of a power thing from this than love.  Horses can mean power, as they provide the rider with authority and strength.  The overall ‘vibe’ and feel to this bedroom is dark.  The blood red wall paint does little but add a sense of unease.

I am by no means psychic, and of course what I have said above is simply an opinion - I do feel uneasy looking at this bedroom.  It’s dark.  It’s dingy.  It’s cluttered.  It’s red.  It shouts pain and aggression to me, if I am honest.  I have seen young people’s bedrooms before.   This has to be the first time I’ve felt uneasy looking at one.

It shouts death

no it shouts teenagers bedroom to me

[Bullseye]

Using terms like gypo, and the past few comments about Luke’s room really are pathetic. Is this the kind of evidence you have to prove his guilt to us who are not sure, you guys really are not helping yourself or your attempts to show Luke guilt. Just making yourself look ridiculous imo.