so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.

[lookout]

Yes-----bullet recovered from L arm, under Sheila's notes near to where it states abdominal injury-iliac fossa ( this is where there's a dressing below Sheila's abdomen )

It says the above just a couple of lines down after a neck haemorrhage.

[Caroline]

It would have been in the kitchen area if it on the back of a chair as I don't think there was a chair in the bedroom, not that I could see anyway.
I'll go through the thread and see how it came about.

It's not on a chair or a nightdress, it's on the tiles near the aga.

[lookout]

It's not on a chair or a nightdress, it's on the tiles near the aga.

What was on the tiles ?

[Caroline]

Yes-----bullet recovered from L arm, under Sheila's notes near to where it states abdominal injury-iliac fossa ( this is where there's a dressing below Sheila's abdomen )

That's a  reference to Neville Lookout nothing to do with Sheila.

[lookout]

That's a  reference to Neville Lookout nothing to do with Sheila.

It's with the notes on Sheila's injuries.

[David1819]

I have an open mind. Saying Bamber is guilty but being open to an industrial frame.

Saying Bamber is guilty and framed is not being open minded. That line of thinking only shows you need to believe in guilt regardless.

[Adam]

Saying Bamber is guilty and framed is not being open minded. That line of thinking only shows you need to believe in guilt regardless.

Sorry, the industrial frame would have been made on an innocent Bamber.

A guilty Bamber, the industrial frame is not needed.

[Caroline]

It's with the notes on Sheila's injuries.

Those notes are about all of the victims but the page you are referring to is about Neville.

[Caroline]

What was on the tiles ?

There was a hand print - I believe CAL mentions it too.

[lookout]

Those notes are about all of the victims but the page you are referring to is about Neville.

Well unless Nevill had an injury on the left side of his abdomen in the area known as the iliac fossa then Vanezis was drunk. These are notes written as the body first appeared and before they were re-typed or edited.

[lookout]

There was a hand print - I believe CAL mentions it too.

McDonnell reckoned it was Nevill's.

[David1819]

Sorry, the industrial frame would have been made on an innocent Bamber.

A guilty Bamber, the industrial frame is not needed.

Relatives find the silencer. Realising that Sheila could not or would not have used it, they plant blood inside inside it to incriminate JB.

Relatives report silencer to the police.

Police give silencer to lab.

Lab look at silencer un-aware of the circumstances it came it into being and conclude Sheila was murdered.

Done. Nothing industrial about it.

[David1819]

I would like to hear the opinion of Nbg1066 on the high resolution photograph in question. From his knowledge of the history of the case, I would expect him to know whether or not Bamber's defence produced a fake photograph.

In fact, the idea of the photograph being enhanced was invented by a poster called Weety at the red forum and who has used the name Bridget at this forum. It's just complete bunkum, but there does seem to be some organisation behind it. It has become almost a mantra. "The photo has been enhanced."

Mike Tesko made some copies of photographs and some of the copies have what photographers call a blue cast. You are trying to kid people that the pictures with a blue cast show the true colours
and that the original unaltered image is a fake. But it's possible to prove that it's the blue pictures which are wrong.

I would also like to hear Mikes view on this issue. He has seen the photos in the album. For all I know, the photos he copied may already have been adjusted. The badly degraded image you keep posting must have already been distorted when Mike copied it. It has a lot of noise as well as a blue cast. It looks like it has been copied many times.

When images are copied by simply photographing a photograph, distortions tend to occur each time.

The photo is genuine. I have seen it myself.

[lookout]

I often wonder if the relatives knew at the time that RWB's blood grouping was the same as Sheila's.

[Jane]

Those notes are about all of the victims but the page you are referring to is about Neville.

He seems to have given them -the deceased- numbers 1 to 5. Possibly it made the task more 'business-like? Despite the appalling writing some words are more decipherable than others and there's a point it looks as if Nevill has an ilium fosse injury and stretch marks and Sheila has a chest wound. He was, however, correct in saying that number 3 was menstruating and had a tampon and IUD in place.