so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.

[lookout]

Grab marks on all three adults. I think I heard quite some time ago about defence marks on Sheila's arm. It may have been from Bill in one of his pm's.

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I hope the CPS doesn't drag its feet over the latest info. re. the two silencers. It was at the beginning of July that they were handed documents relating to this.

[Roch]

Lets pretend these two photos below are the autopsy before and after the wash. If I understand BR correctly, what he has seen is something like the one I have photoshoped at the bottom. The skin has been washed and thus any marks that remains is damaged skin and wounds ect ect. Probably like what I have circled in blue. There are some marks there that I have always suspected MIGHT be cuts and gouges. But I always thought they were most probably dried blood stains that Vanezis washed off (like the streaks) since he never mentioned such marks. However if these marks existed AFTER the body was washed like BR said then that would change my view completely.

The first thing I asked was whether wounds were visible after the body was washed.  I expect that if the wrist marks are not, it relates to the PM photos - did Bill say they were full body-length images -  or was that the crime scene images?  TBH I cant remember.   I dd previously tell you about upper arm wounds.

[David1819]

The first thing I asked was whether wounds were visible after the body was washed.  I expect that if the wrist marks are not, it relates to the PM photos - did Bill say they were full body-length images -  or was that the crime scene images?  TBH I cant remember.   I dd previously tell you about upper arm wounds.

Bill said he wont divulge anymore as it could jeopardise a future appeal. So its really pointless us speculating.

Why he then divulged on the subject with you in the first place without clearly explaining it or showing you such photos that would prove the claims, I find rather odd.

[nugnug]

so comit youeself david is it in the ccrc submissions or not.

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[nugnug]

so comit youeself david is it in the ccrc submissions or not.

bump

so david are you going to comit yourelf.

[David1819]

Did the nugget get all salty again?

[nugnug]

Did the nugget get all salty again?

are you going to answr the qustion you keep aviding it.

i asked a qustion all you have to do is answer it.

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I don't know about a forensic breakthrough for the time being but the phone-calls feature quite prominently now and there's no doubt about who phoned who and when.   

[nugnug]

I don't know about a forensic breakthrough for the time being but the phone-calls feature quite prominently now and there's no doubt about who phoned who and when.

well as david wont anser a simple qustion about it can only conclude there isnt one and its a pack of lies.

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well as david wont anser a simple ustion about it can only conclude there isnt one and its a pack of lies.

I would say that that particular " breakthrough " is past its sell-by date and one which I'd pointed out in 2012 so had been done to death since. 

[nugnug]

I would say that that particular " breakthrough " is past its sell-by date and one which I'd pointed out in 2012 so had been done to death since.

who was cliaming it in 2012 then lookout.

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who was cliaming it in 2012 then lookout.

I'll look back at it nugs.

[lookout]

who was cliaming it in 2012 then lookout.

I'd seen a reference to it from a forum dated 2005 then the poster Reader showed me where I'd written about it in 2012, so it was covered then on the thread " Sheila on the bed, photo's withheld, blankets/ sheets destroyed, carpets burned "------June 11 2012.

[lookout]

Vanezis had written a handwritten note " bloodstained palm-prints on nightdress matches bloodstains appeared to have transferred from R.hand ". McDonnell only mentions finger marks not palm print.