The Mysterious Disappearance of Andrew Gosden

[Steve_uk]

A possible development in the case.  https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/two-men-arrested-on-suspicion-of-kidnap-and-human-trafficking-after-boy-14-went-missing-in-2007/ar-AASFuH5?ocid=msedgntp

[handymanz]

This popped out at me whilst researching something else.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndrewGosden/comments/jgl344/my_husband_told_me_this_weird_story_about_a_guy/

In this post mention is made of Andrew attending church services with family.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=post;quote=452280;topic=9925.0;last_msg=529908

If he was approached by someone wearing a Clergy outfit, he could have easily thought it would be safe to trust such a person.


Given a 15 year sentance in 1998, could this guy have been released before Sept. 2007.
https://tedteamsite.wordpress.com/2018/11/28/awareness-posting-of-prolific-sex-offender-last-known-in-tottenham-unknown-whereabouts-now-stay-vigilant/

[Steve_uk]

This popped out at me whilst researching something else.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndrewGosden/comments/jgl344/my_husband_told_me_this_weird_story_about_a_guy/

In this post mention is made of Andrew attending church services with family.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=post;quote=452280;topic=9925.0;last_msg=529908

If he was approached by someone wearing a Clergy outfit, he could have easily thought it would be safe to trust such a person.


Given a 15 year sentance in 1998, could this guy have been released before Sept. 2007.
https://tedteamsite.wordpress.com/2018/11/28/awareness-posting-of-prolific-sex-offender-last-known-in-tottenham-unknown-whereabouts-now-stay-vigilant/

But didn't Andrew know by all accounts his way around London? There's no CCTV of him reentering Kings Cross station either. He had relatives in the area he could have stayed with, unless it was his intention from the outset to abscond, in which case one might have thought he would have packed a bag.

[handymanz]

The 2 points to consider, he didn't buy a return ticket or pack a bag. Makes me think he intended to meet someone.
Now that it appears a peadophile team operate at Kings Cross dressed in clergy regalia, the Police should have at least investigated them.

[Steve_uk]

The 2 points to consider, he didn't buy a return ticket or pack a bag. Makes me think he intended to meet someone.
Now that it appears a peadophile team operate at Kings Cross dressed in clergy regalia, the Police should have at least investigated them.

I suppose I could envisage Andrew going off with a fake man of the cloth, given that his father was active in the Church of England. Maybe this clergyman offered him a lift to the show and the teenager was ambushed in the basement of a multistorey car park. As for any prearrangement it was proved that Andrew wasn't in communication with anyone prior to his disappearance, or maybe the I.T people missed something. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11002439/Father-missing-Andrew-Gosden-reveals-huge-hole-life-15-years-disappearance.html

[handymanz]

I see tomorrow is the 15th anniversary.

The father was young when his kids were born, the poor guy has had nearly a third of his life spent just wondering.

[Steve_uk]

"They only wanted to get hold of the station CCTV to prove he wasn't buried in the back garden.."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/my-teen-son-vanished-18-35942715

[handymanz]

The indefatigable Pat Brown has taken on the Andrew Gosden case. Our hero looks to have discovered the reason for Andrew Gosden going to London.
Apparently, on 14 September 2007 in London was the launching of the new 'PCP slim & light' play station, with the added possibility of Andrew wanting to use his old play station as a trade in.

Of course, there is the unanswered question of why he didn't purchase a return ticket. He travelled to London on a Friday, maybe he thought he could just stay over with his grandparents, with Saturday not being a workday he wouldn't be imposing on them too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW3pQRQxcHE&t=3016s

[Steve_uk]

The indefatigable Pat Brown has taken on the Andrew Gosden case. Our hero looks to have discovered the reason for Andrew Gosden going to London.
Apparently, on 14 September 2007 in London was the launching of the new 'PCP slim & light' play station, with the added possibility of Andrew wanting to use his old play station as a trade in.

Of course, there is the unanswered question of why he didn't purchase a return ticket. He travelled to London on a Friday, maybe he thought he could just stay over with his grandparents, with Saturday not being a workday he wouldn't be imposing on them too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW3pQRQxcHE&t=3016s

I don't think it was her best presentation, primarily because as yet there's no crime scene. I suppose her conclusion would rule out the suicide theory.

[handymanz]

I don't think it was her best presentation, primarily because as yet there's no crime scene. I suppose her conclusion would rule out the suicide theory

Yes, but I think she's come across the best reason for Andrew going to London he'd probably been planning it for a couple of days before hand.
Hence the reason why he was moody when he woke up late that morning. He'd left the house with the intention of returning.
Because of the way he'd left behind his school uniform PB thinks he may have intended to return home that same day, without anyone knowing he'd gone to London.
Maybe on his way to the station, he decided that being a Friday he would visit the grandparents with his new play station. And return home sometime that weekend

With no more sightings after reaching Kings Cross station, sadly he was picked up by a pedophile ring. Kings Cross being a favorite predatory hunting ground for pedos.

[Steve_uk]

Yes, but I think she's come across the best reason for Andrew going to London he'd probably been planning it for a couple of days before hand.
Hence the reason why he was moody when he woke up late that morning. He'd left the house with the intention of returning.
Because of the way he'd left behind his school uniform PB thinks he may have intended to return home that same day, without anyone knowing he'd gone to London.
Maybe on his way to the station, he decided that being a Friday he would visit the grandparents with his new play station. And return home sometime that weekend

With no more sightings after reaching Kings Cross station, sadly he was picked up by a pedophile ring. Kings Cross being a favorite predatory hunting ground for pedos.

It would explain the refusal of the return ticket were he to travel back on a peak train, as I think for the day return 50p extra ticket deal one would have to come back after 7pm. There was an alleged sighting of him at Pizza Hut in Oxford Street, so he would have to buy the new gadget at a store in the vicinity, probably on that street then check he had enough time to get back to Doncaster Station, missing the school crowd and catching the bus back to Balby, then claim to parents he had already returned from school and changed out of his school uniform or had been at a friend's house, or arrive back before his parents returned from their work.

I'm still confounded by how someone caused him to disappear in one of Europe's most populous cities without any eyewitness noticing a thing.

[handymanz]

It would explain the refusal of the return ticket were he to travel back on a peak train, as I think for the day return 50p extra ticket deal one would have to come back after 7pm

Yes, so he'd have to purchase a single ticket in order to return home before 4.00pm.
Having said that what's the rules for a child return ticket?

I'm still confounded by how someone caused him to disappear in one of Europe's most populous cities without any eyewitness noticing a thing.

Even with the 'alleged' sighting in Oxford Street you would think he would have been seen enroute on CCTV.
The lack of no more sightings tells me he was picked up at Kings Cross station, by a pedo possibly wearing a clergy outfit or dressed in a way to not make a young person feel uncomfortable.

[Steve_uk]

Yes, so he'd have to purchase a single ticket in order to return home before 4.00pm.
Having said that what's the rules for a child return ticket?

Even with the 'alleged' sighting in Oxford Street you would think he would have been seen enroute on CCTV.
The lack of no more sightings tells me he was picked up at Kings Cross station, by a pedo possibly wearing a clergy outfit or dressed in a way to not make a young person feel uncomfortable.

I don't think there was a distinction between adult and child for the 50p extra day return deal. As for being picked up, remember the area is heavily surveilled by CCTV, which any paedophile would surely know and couldn't bank on any footage being lost. He would also need access to a vehicle, which would be recorded on the congestion charge system, and I come back to the point again that it's remarkable nobody reported a sighting of Andrew following the alleged Pizza Hut visit. https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2023/february/congestion-charge-marks-20-years-of-keeping-london-moving-sustainably

[handymanz]

Is he leaving Kings Cross station heading outside to the main road, or could he be walking to the tube station situated inside the building

[Steve_uk]

Is he leaving Kings Cross station heading outside to the main road, or could he be walking to the tube station situated inside the building

I'm not sure. It looks as if he's heading outside, possibly to stretch his legs after sitting for two hours on the train. I think had he wanted to take the Underground he wouldn't need to exit the station.