Books on the Case

[Caroline]

Why would I need Jeremy’s permission?

The letters belong to me.

You wouldn't need his permission at all.

[JackieD]

Why would I need Jeremy’s permission?

The letters belong to me.

Because I know Jeremy would not like it so you would be going against his wishes.
xxxxx xxx xxxx?

[lookout]

I would say that AA knows Jeremy better than anyone and it'll be she who will finally decide her wishes nobody else.

Good to have seen you AA and look forward to more visits.

[Aunt Agatha]

Because I know Jeremy would not like it so you would be going against his wishes.
xxxxx xxx xxxx?

With respect, Jeremy has been rotting in jail for over 30 years for something he did not do.  What has he got to lose?  The guy is now in his late 50’s.

His Capaign Team have moved no further ahead since he introduduced them - he’s still in prison and from there he’s running the show. 

If you believe him as much as I do, then let’s prove Jeremy’s consistency regarding that evenings events have not changed and proving that his statements to his friends cannot be disproved which in my opinion gives ground for insufficient evidence.  We come at it from the opposite angle.

As far as I’m aware NOTHING that he has stated that night has been proven to be inaccurate.  How many tests and files have been completed and searches done?

So far, supporters have had to go on everything the police have said and we have found inconsistencies and failings in many areas.  How about if we worked on Jeremy’s early statements and see if we can examine all the consistencies and prove Jeremy’s theories cannot be disproved.

He had no idea of what went on that evening....his statement was made 32 yrs ago, surely all the evidence today can be used to either support or dismiss his claim of innocence.

I’ve got no idea how this could be done - just trying to think outside the box!

[lookout]

With respect, Jeremy has been rotting in jail for over 30 years for something he did not do.  What has he got to lose?  The guy is now in his late 50’s.

His Capaign Team have moved no further ahead since he introduduced them - he’s still in prison and from there he’s running the show. 

If you believe him as much as I do, then let’s prove Jeremy’s consistency regarding that evenings events have not changed and proving that his statements to his friends cannot be disproved which in my opinion gives ground for insufficient evidence.  We come at it from the opposite angle.

As far as I’m aware NOTHING that he has stated that night has been proven to be inaccurate.  How many tests and files have been completed and searches done?

So far, supporters have had to go on everything the police have said and we have found inconsistencies and failings in many areas.  How about if we worked on Jeremy’s early statements and see if we can examine all the consistencies and prove Jeremy’s theories cannot be disproved.

He had no idea of what went on that evening....his statement was made 32 yrs ago, surely all the evidence today can be used to either support or dismiss his claim of innocence.

I’ve got no idea how this could be done - just trying to think outside the box!

What needs to be seen are the initial files/documents from when it was pronounced a murder/suicide. It's these files etc which will be the most vital in proving once and for all that Jeremy's conviction has been flawed all along. Without these original files/documents and logs etc. it remains a stalemate where nobody and nothing can move on.

[Caroline]

With respect, Jeremy has been rotting in jail for over 30 years for something he did not do.  What has he got to lose?  The guy is now in his late 50’s.

His Capaign Team have moved no further ahead since he introduduced them - he’s still in prison and from there he’s running the show. 

If you believe him as much as I do, then let’s prove Jeremy’s consistency regarding that evenings events have not changed and proving that his statements to his friends cannot be disproved which in my opinion gives ground for insufficient evidence.  We come at it from the opposite angle.

As far as I’m aware NOTHING that he has stated that night has been proven to be inaccurate.  How many tests and files have been completed and searches done?

So far, supporters have had to go on everything the police have said and we have found inconsistencies and failings in many areas.  How about if we worked on Jeremy’s early statements and see if we can examine all the consistencies and prove Jeremy’s theories cannot be disproved.

He had no idea of what went on that evening....his statement was made 32 yrs ago, surely all the evidence today can be used to either support or dismiss his claim of innocence.

I’ve got no idea how this could be done - just trying to think outside the box!

Actually AA, his first statement does have inconsistencies with his interview, his statemment claims that he called the police first, but in his interview, he declared that he called Julie first. He has now also changed the timings of the phone calls but it would be interesting to see what he said back then, compared to now. He now also claims, that the lights were going on and off in the house and curtains were opening and closing - I remember you saying that that was news to you?

[Steve_uk]

He also told Colin on 7th August 1985 that he thought Nevill had been shot when he called but retracted this for reasons of his own.

[lookout]

Probably because his father's voice sounded different to what he'd been used to hearing ?

[Steve_uk]

Probably because his father's voice sounded different to what he'd been used to hearing ?

..or maybe when he got wind of Nevill's alleged call to Police he thought they might have gainsaid. Why anyway did Jeremy avoid the relatives post-murders including Pamela and his grandmother and why sell family heirlooms which had especial significance for them?

[lookout]

..or maybe when he got wind of Nevill's alleged call to Police he thought they might have gainsaid. Why anyway did Jeremy avoid the relatives post-murders including Pamela and his grandmother and why sell family heirlooms which had especial significance for them?

Yes,the relatives would have disputed the phone-call but I rather think that it was the relatives who'd have avoided Jeremy and not the other way around due to all they had to say to EP behind his back, a conscience problem I'd have said. I thought Jeremy was falling over himself with gratitude towards them for helping with funeral arrangements etc------flowers and a card for AE ?
As for heirlooms, again, I'd have said that their main interest was in the jewellery, something which Jeremy hadn't shown interest yet would have yielded far more than what he did sell. I'd like to have seen how much those funerals cost etc  as at that time a family member's funeral cost above £2,000 without the flowers etc ( 1986 ) and the finance to pay for this isn't always readily available so you either sell what you can or have the solicitor arrange release from the estate.

[gringo]

With respect, Jeremy has been rotting in jail for over 30 years for something he did not do.  What has he got to lose?  The guy is now in his late 50’s.

His Capaign Team have moved no further ahead since he introduduced them - he’s still in prison and from there he’s running the show. 

If you believe him as much as I do, then let’s prove Jeremy’s consistency regarding that evenings events have not changed and proving that his statements to his friends cannot be disproved which in my opinion gives ground for insufficient evidence.  We come at it from the opposite angle.

As far as I’m aware NOTHING that he has stated that night has been proven to be inaccurate.  How many tests and files have been completed and searches done?

So far, supporters have had to go on everything the police have said and we have found inconsistencies and failings in many areas.  How about if we worked on Jeremy’s early statements and see if we can examine all the consistencies and prove Jeremy’s theories cannot be disproved.

He had no idea of what went on that evening....his statement was made 32 yrs ago, surely all the evidence today can be used to either support or dismiss his claim of innocence.

I’ve got no idea how this could be done - just trying to think outside the box!

   It would certainly establish the consistency or otherwise of JB and likewise EP.  Because of your involvement from so early I am sure that your letters are a rich resource to, as you say, "come at it from the opposite angle."
    I have no idea as to whether Jeremy himself would appreciate this but see no good reason why he wouldn't. Who knows what could be hidden in these letters? The suggestion of Mike's letters from JB along with your own would probably make a far more honest book than most of the attempts by poundshop authors so far.
    For what it's worth, AA, I believe you should attempt to do something with what is surely a rich resource of first hand information gathered over 22 years. I am sure that there must be plenty of case related material discussed and the evolution of the case compared to Jeremy's recollections could throw up something unexpected.
    What details from the letters have struck you as highlighting consistency or otherwise of both Jeremy and the case against him?

[Steve_uk]

   It would certainly establish the consistency or otherwise of JB and likewise EP.  Because of your involvement from so early I am sure that your letters are a rich resource to, as you say, "come at it from the opposite angle."
    I have no idea as to whether Jeremy himself would appreciate this but see no good reason why he wouldn't. Who knows what could be hidden in these letters? The suggestion of Mike's letters from JB along with your own would probably make a far more honest book than most of the attempts by poundshop authors so far.
    For what it's worth, AA, I believe you should attempt to do something with what is surely a rich resource of first hand information gathered over 22 years. I am sure that there must be plenty of case related material discussed and the evolution of the case compared to Jeremy's recollections could throw up something unexpected.
    What details from the letters have struck you as highlighting consistency or otherwise of both Jeremy and the case against him?

All you will find is wild allegations of malpractice about all and sundry, and when individuals attempt any detailed analysis by honing in on any given aspect of the case Jeremy will back off and sack those people who are most desperate to help him.

[lookout]

I doubt you'd find any " wild accusations " coming from Jeremy, it seemed that it was everyone else who had a field day in " describing " what Jeremy was like since a private detective was hired to make sure of that. Either Jeremy himself had been too loyal or downright gormless not to have seen through the harm that others were doing.

[gringo]

All you will find is wild allegations of malpractice about all and sundry, and when individuals attempt any detailed analysis by honing in on any given aspect of the case Jeremy will back off and sack those people who are most desperate to help him.

   Don't leap to judgement, Steve. Surely, Aunt Agatha will have details worth discussing and Jeremy can't sack anyone for discussing or writing about them. AA was involved from early in the case and we have discussed other correspondence on here. I am sure that there are points worth exploring given the benefit of developments since and hindsight.
   

[Caroline]

Probably because his father's voice sounded different to what he'd been used to hearing ?

And yet he didn't dial 999