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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #405 on: August 16, 2018, 12:39:PM »
Wouldn't you agree that due to the enormity of the case that you'd have questioned the ability of those concerned in it ?

I would question the decisions made at the start because that affected everything else.
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« Reply #406 on: August 16, 2018, 12:55:PM »
I would question the decisions made at the start because that affected everything else.







Wouldn't you question the U-Turn after a month ?

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« Reply #407 on: August 16, 2018, 01:27:PM »






Wouldn't you question the U-Turn after a month ?

What? After they had had time to investigate further - no! Innocent supporters complain that the CS wasn't protected and that police didn't do a very good job at the initial stages but defend Taff Jones to the bitter end. I'm afraid it was down to Taff Jones to make sure the initial investigation followed procedures. He made a snap decision and was too stubborn to admit it. He should have had an open mind from the beginning and not rely on what Bamber told him.
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« Reply #408 on: August 16, 2018, 01:28:PM »






Wouldn't you question the U-Turn after a month ?

That would depend on where I stood. If I was just a bobby doing what I was paid to do, I expect I'd have been pretty p****d off at the thought that even MORE leave would be canceled and that I'd have to go through it all again. Then again, I might think that I KNEW they'd got it wrong in the first place and be glad they'd had a rethink. OR I might wonder why they were bothering as it would be easier to leave well enough alone and pin it on the girl. OR I'd have been pig sick that they'd listened to the posh b*****d who'd pulled the wool over their eyes in the first place.
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« Reply #409 on: August 16, 2018, 01:40:PM »
What? After they had had time to investigate further - no! Innocent supporters complain that the CS wasn't protected and that police didn't do a very good job at the initial stages but defend Taff Jones to the bitter end. I'm afraid it was down to Taff Jones to make sure the initial investigation followed procedures. He made a snap decision and was too stubborn to admit it. He should have had an open mind from the beginning and not rely on what Bamber told him.






Why was JB bailed for a year when EP knew the answer ? Wouldn't you think it unfathomable to bail a person who is highly suspect ?  No bail is granted for those under suspicion of murder but JB was bailed without conditions ?

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« Reply #410 on: August 16, 2018, 01:53:PM »





Why was JB bailed for a year when EP knew the answer ? Wouldn't you think it unfathomable to bail a person who is highly suspect ?  No bail is granted for those under suspicion of murder but JB was bailed without conditions ?

that is unusual ,

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« Reply #411 on: August 16, 2018, 02:06:PM »
that is unusual ,







It is considering that SJ had his " gut-feeling " pretty well straightaway after JB had been questioned and the relatives " knew " days after.

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« Reply #412 on: August 16, 2018, 02:09:PM »
I'm aware that police have to be given time before they charge someone-------but a year later ??

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« Reply #413 on: August 16, 2018, 02:17:PM »
The " ironic " situation in JB's bail having been granted would have been done through the courts who would have stipulated that JB hadn't posed a threat to the public--------yet he'd supposedly murdered 5 people ??

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« Reply #414 on: August 16, 2018, 02:18:PM »






It is considering that SJ had his " gut-feeling " pretty well straightaway after JB had been questioned and the relatives " knew " days after.


I guess, if you've ever 'dressed' a stage, and/or those on it, you'd understand that it's all about illusion. JUST enough is done to make the audience believe that what they're seeing is real, after which, if the work requires a narrator, that person will tell the audience what they're about to see played out. I think Jeremy managed it all remarkably well.

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« Reply #415 on: August 16, 2018, 02:20:PM »
The " ironic " situation in JB's bail having been granted would have been done through the courts who would have stipulated that JB hadn't posed a threat to the public--------yet he'd supposedly murdered 5 people ??

Jeremy was never interested in "the public". He wasn't going to inherit from them.

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« Reply #416 on: August 16, 2018, 02:29:PM »

I guess, if you've ever 'dressed' a stage, and/or those on it, you'd understand that it's all about illusion. JUST enough is done to make the audience believe that what they're seeing is real, after which, if the work requires a narrator, that person will tell the audience what they're about to see played out. I think Jeremy managed it all remarkably well.





I'm afraid Jeremy didn't have a clue what anything was about. Afterall if you're being accused of something you didn't do and know yourself that you didn't do, how can you  "act out" any such  situation other than stand in disbelief as he did. No hissy fits or wailing or collapsing in a heap--------just the honest truth which he delivered in no other way but normal.
The acting came from JM. Her tears cut no ice with me. Nor do others when they cry in court.
 
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« Reply #417 on: August 16, 2018, 02:59:PM »




I'm afraid Jeremy didn't have a clue what anything was about. Afterall if you're being accused of something you didn't do and know yourself that you didn't do, how can you  "act out" any such  situation other than stand in disbelief as he did. No hissy fits or wailing or collapsing in a heap--------just the honest truth which he delivered in no other way but normal.
The acting came from JM. Her tears cut no ice with me. Nor do others when they cry in court.

Naturally, Julie would have been acting along with Jeremy, but he certainly wasn't the moronic cretin you portray him as being. For one, he had a very well honed sense of entitlement and he certainly seemed to know his way around getting out of working on the farm. He lied very cleverly when explaining that he'd only broken into the holiday site office to highlight it's lack of security. He forgot to explain why he took the money. If it was for safe-keeping, it was kept safely in the till of the restaurant where he paid for a slap up meal on the proceeds. Nor did it take him long to find someone to cart away his family's belongings. Quite naturally, he wanted to put on a certain style when it came to dressing for the funeral and spending money as if it was going out of fashion afterwards. I'd feel more inclined to describe him as cleverly devious with his eyes always open to the main chance.

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« Reply #418 on: August 16, 2018, 03:03:PM »





Why was JB bailed for a year when EP knew the answer ? Wouldn't you think it unfathomable to bail a person who is highly suspect ?  No bail is granted for those under suspicion of murder but JB was bailed without conditions ?

BAILED??   ;D ;D ;D He was REMANDED! That's pretty basic stuff Lookout!
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Re: Video re photographs non-disclosure
« Reply #419 on: August 16, 2018, 03:04:PM »
The " ironic " situation in JB's bail having been granted would have been done through the courts who would have stipulated that JB hadn't posed a threat to the public--------yet he'd supposedly murdered 5 people ??

I'd stop there if I were you Lookout, Jeremy was remanded for the year before his trial.  ;D ;D
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