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Offline Nigel

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #90 on: May 11, 2018, 08:25:AM »
While we wait for Mike to have a well deserved cuppa!, this is my view on what happened:

‘The accomplice’, was let in to WHF by SHEILA while the rest of the family were in bed.

‘The accomplice’ killed JUNE and NEVILLE. *

Then either the accomplice or SHEILA killed the twins. *

‘The accomplice’ forces NEVILLE to phone JEREMY and say "Please come over. Your sister has gone crazy and has got the gun."
This was to lure Jeremy with a view to kill him.
Also exonerating the accomplice from crime.

NEVILLE forced to call the '5th furthest away police station', allowing time to kill JEREMY when he arrives at WHF. Importantly again exonerating ‘the accomplice’ from crime.

This was high risk for ‘The accomplice’ but he lived minutes walk away from WHF and felt he could fade into the night or pretend he heard shots and came to see if he could 'help'.

‘The accomplice’ places two silencers in cupboard under stairs

Preparing for JEREMY,

He sees/hears the cops arrive.

SHEILA let the accomplice out.

SHEILA then took her own life.

‘The accomplice’ is the 'unidentified male'.

* I maybe swayed by Mike on these two points, but ‘The accomplice’ and SHEILA were involved.



‘The accomplice’ was known to SHEILA and the family almost certainly from a young age.
He lived/lives VERY nearby.

IF ‘THE ACCOMPLICE” IS READING THIS I URGE YOU TO VISIT A POLICE STATION IMMEDIATELY AND EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED AT WHF IN THE EARLY HOURS OF WEDNESDAY 7 AUGUST 1985…..

NEVILLE was trying to save JEREMY, by blocking the Kitchen door while sat in the chair, leaning against another chair.

Trying desperately, in his dying breaths to protect JEREMY from the ‘The accomplice’ and SHEILA.

NEVILLE, you are a brave thoughtful caring gentleman.
I slow down for a speeding police car, don't you?

6.01pm on Friday 6th September 1985 'Part 2' of the case began.

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #91 on: May 11, 2018, 08:33:AM »
NEVILLE was trying to save JEREMY, by blocking the Kitchen door while sat in the chair, leaning against another chair.

Trying desperately, in his dying breaths to protect JEREMY from the ‘The accomplice’ and SHEILA.

NEVILLE, you are a brave thoughtful caring gentleman.

NEVILLE had been forced to put JEREMY in a life threatening situation.

He did his very best to not expose JEREMY to this threat, by blocking the door, even mortally wounded and a few last breaths on this earth left.

Good God, your dad loves you JEREMY with all his heart and soul.
I slow down for a speeding police car, don't you?

6.01pm on Friday 6th September 1985 'Part 2' of the case began.

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #92 on: May 11, 2018, 09:33:AM »
It's also a possibility that Nevill couldn't get to phone the police if he'd been in a hostage situation,hoping that by phoning Jeremy he'd do the job for him.

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #93 on: May 11, 2018, 10:34:AM »
The recent very sad mass murder/suicide in Perth,Australia was rounded off by a telling poster as saying,I quote " all became too much RIP," unquote. A powerful truth.
This tragedy also involved a farmhouse/farm and guns. 4 children and 3 adults. R.I.P.

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #94 on: May 11, 2018, 10:43:AM »
I don't think there is much chance of Sheila's accomplice coming forward after 33 years. If still alive.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #95 on: May 11, 2018, 10:51:AM »
You're joking aren't you ? How many killers have ever come forward ?

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« Reply #96 on: May 11, 2018, 11:14:AM »
A murderer will flee abroad or hang/shoot himself before sentence,or if imprisoned will usually commit suicide by hanging or overdose to avoid a long sentence-------they don't plead innocence for 33 years !!

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #97 on: May 11, 2018, 11:28:AM »
You're joking aren't you ? How many killers have ever come forward ?

Nigel was asking Sheila's accomplice to come forward.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #98 on: May 11, 2018, 11:28:AM »
How do we know if Sheila had willingly let someone in ? We don't do we ? We know that her parents weren't happy with the people she'd mixed with.
Those who say an entrance could have been gained through a downstairs window.Why did it have to be Jeremy when an open window is an invitation to both strangers,friends and acquaintances  ? This " open window " SHOULD have led to a long line of enquiries !! But didn't.

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #99 on: May 11, 2018, 11:57:AM »
Jeremy didn't have to tell EP or anyone where he left the rifle before returning home.
Jeremy didn't have to mention that his father had called him.

Both above immediately draws attention to those who say " he covered himself " early in the case but surely the way to cover yourself is to keep your mouth shut ? Which is what Jeremy would have done if he'd been a " psychopathic killer " or even an accomplice. Besides which if he'd KNOWN he did it he'd have killed himself before now,as they do,or even attempt to.   

How would the case have gone had there been no phone-call ? ( if JB hadn't mentioned his dad phoning )

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #100 on: May 11, 2018, 12:25:PM »
8 mins 27 seconds

DAVID BOUTFLOUR hearing 'the news'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTvqLk0MWU&t=517s

at 8 mins 50 seconds it appears that DAVID BOUTFLOUR has a 'slip of the tongue' and says he thought JEREMY was ALSO dead.

« Last Edit: May 11, 2018, 12:32:PM by Nigel »
I slow down for a speeding police car, don't you?

6.01pm on Friday 6th September 1985 'Part 2' of the case began.

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #101 on: May 11, 2018, 12:45:PM »
I remember Patti posting a few years back about the marks on the back of Nevill. Marks that could have come from the rifle's barrel forcing him to call Jeremy but limiting the conversation--------meaning that Jeremy could well have driven to the farmhouse unaccompanied and dead into the bargain !
These marks were of a " prodding " movement and deliberately made in a gesture of urgency. Then the conversation was cut by depressing the button on top of the phone.

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« Reply #102 on: May 11, 2018, 12:47:PM »
There are too many unanswered questions to have blamed one man !

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« Reply #103 on: May 11, 2018, 12:48:PM »
A forensic psychologist should have been brought in.

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #104 on: May 11, 2018, 12:53:PM »
NEVILLE was forced to make the phone call to JEREMY no doubt about that.
The call was abruptly ended by 'the accomplice, as there was another call to make, to the '5th furthest away police station'.

Mike,

Please can you confirm that the bullet wounds suffered to NEVILLE in the bedroom are consistent to the shooter not wanting to kill NEVILLE, just wound him?

Thanks

Nigel
« Last Edit: May 11, 2018, 01:01:PM by Nigel »
I slow down for a speeding police car, don't you?

6.01pm on Friday 6th September 1985 'Part 2' of the case began.