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Offline Nigel

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The Holy Grail
« on: May 03, 2018, 09:58:PM »
Hi Mike

I understand that we have:

(A) - Anshuzt rifle, .22 semi-automatic rifle (Bambers)

(B) - Parker Hale Silencer (belonging to Bamber rifle)

(C) - Bruno rifle , .22 bolt action rifle (Pargeters)

(D) - Parker Hale Silencer (belonging to Pargeter rifle)


Is A B and D compatible?

Is C B and D compatible?

I know, you know where this is leading...
« Last Edit: May 04, 2018, 09:54:PM by Nigel »
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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Mike I am confused, please help!
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2018, 05:07:PM »
Hi Mike

I understand that we have:

(A) - Anshuzt rifle, .22 semi-automatic rifle (Bambers)

(B) - Parker Hale Silencer (belonging to Bamber rifle)

(C) - Bruno rifle , .22 bolt action rifle (Pargeters)

(D) - Parker Hale Silencer (belonging to Pargeter rifle)


Is A B and D compatible?

Is C B and D compatible?

I know, you know where this is leading...

Yes, the silencer has a universal thread that allows it to be screwed into any .22 calibre weapon, such as the (A), Anshuzt rifle, (C), the Bruno rifle, and (X), the .22 BSA air rifle!
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Re: Mike I am confused, please help!
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2018, 09:44:PM »
Yes, the silencer has a universal thread that allows it to be screwed into any .22 calibre weapon, such as the (A), Anshuzt rifle, (C), the Bruno rifle, and (X), the .22 BSA air rifle!

Mike,

If the moderator needed the coupling as per image below (please see text, red lines), this could be 'the Holy Grail'.




« Last Edit: May 04, 2018, 09:53:PM by Nigel »
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Re: Mike I am confused, please help!
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2018, 10:41:PM »
Mike,

If the moderator needed the coupling as per image below (please see text, red lines), this could be 'the Holy Grail'.


(A) - Anshuzt rifle, .22 semi-automatic rifle (Bambers)

(B) - Parker Hale Silencer (belonging to Bamber rifle)

(C) - Bruno rifle , .22 bolt action rifle (Pargeters)

(D) - Parker Hale Silencer (belonging to Pargeter rifle)


Is A B and D compatible? IF ANSWER 'NO'

Is C B and D compatible? IF ANSWER 'NO'

Due to a 'coupling' /adapter required then the Police can't say ''there was only one rifle''.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2018, 10:44:PM by Nigel »
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Re: Mike I am confused, please help!
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2018, 12:05:AM »

(A) - Anshuzt rifle, .22 semi-automatic rifle (Bambers)

(B) - Parker Hale Silencer (belonging to Bamber rifle)

(C) - Bruno rifle , .22 bolt action rifle (Pargeters)

(D) - Parker Hale Silencer (belonging to Pargeter rifle)


Is A B and D compatible? IF ANSWER 'NO'

Is C B and D compatible? IF ANSWER 'NO'

Due to a 'coupling' /adapter required then the Police can't say ''there was only one rifle''.

To make matters easier (B) and (D) are identical models. They will both work with the same guns

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Re: Mike I am confused, please help!
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2018, 12:44:AM »
To make matters easier (B) and (D) are identical models. They will both work with the same guns

Thanks David,

But are the ends (muzzels) of the rifles different, the threads?, on

(A) - Anshuzt rifle, and
(C) - Bruno rifle

therefore requiring the 'coupling'/ 'muzzel adapter' mentioned in image above
« Last Edit: May 05, 2018, 12:50:AM by Nigel »
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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The Holy Grail
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2018, 01:42:AM »
(1) - http://parker-hale.com/

There might have needed to be a HP coupling AC286 device fitted onto the end of the BSA .22 Air Rifle at the scene, although I seem to remember that Jeremy said his BSA Air rifle never had a silencer attached to his model...
« Last Edit: May 05, 2018, 02:08:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: The Holy Grail
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2018, 07:52:AM »
(1) - http://parker-hale.com/

There might have needed to be a HP coupling AC286 device fitted onto the end of the BSA .22 Air Rifle at the scene, although I seem to remember that Jeremy said his BSA Air rifle never had a silencer attached to his model...

thanks Mike,

I guess where you say 'But in 1992, COLP arranged for a ballistic expert, to carry out tests involving the coupling of the silencer, ' you meant thread of the silencer

in this thread

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4411.msg181197.html#msg181197
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Re: Mike I am confused, please help!
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2018, 10:33:AM »
Thanks David,

But are the ends (muzzels) of the rifles different, the threads?, on

(A) - Anshuzt rifle, and
(C) - Bruno rifle

therefore requiring the 'coupling'/ 'muzzel adapter' mentioned in image above

The threads are the same.

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Re: Mike I am confused, please help!
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2018, 11:08:AM »
The threads are the same.

Okay thanks
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