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Offline mike tesko

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thanks Mike,

what were the results of 'SJ/1(13th August 1985) Human blood found in aperture on end cap of silencer (D) bearing exhibit reference 'SJ/1'..

and were  'DB/1' (after 30th August 1985) results in by 06.09.85 no, although the silencer (D) was sent to Lab' on 30th August 1985, the ballistic expert (Fletcher) did not get around to physically examining it until 12th September 1985, when after dismantling 'it' (D), he discovered the small flek of dried blood inside it, which between 12th to 19th September 1985, was identified as being blood which was exclusive and unique to Sheila Caffell..

if so what were 'DB/1' results, thanks blood group activity - A, EAP BA, AK/1 and HP2/1..
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thanks Mike,

and were the results of 'SJ/1' 'D" in before 06.09.85?
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6.01pm on Friday 6th September 1985 'Part 2' of the case began.

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thanks Mike,

and were the results of 'SJ/1' 'D" in before 06.09.85?

Not the full results, only that the blood was human (this information was passed to Essex police by telephone on the 14th August 1985. The blood grouping results A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP2-1, were not obtained until after the same silencer under the exhibit reference 'DB/1' was resubmitted to the lab' on 30th August 1985 - remembering that this is the very same silencer (D) that Ron Cook dismantle and rebuilt beforehand! The blood type results were not obtained at the lab' until 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985.  Everything points to silencer (D) having the different exhibit references SBJ/1, SJ/1 and DB/1, at different stages of the police investigation, the other silencer (B) only being referred to after its submission to the lab' on 20th September 1985 as  possibly AE/1, or CAE/1 and then DRB/1, this being the silencer (B) that Ann Eaton handed over to DC Oakey on 11th September 1985, together with the telescopic sight, and the ammunition box that this (B) silencer was found inside. The telescopic sight, and the empty ammunition box later being given 'DRB' exhibit references just like the silencer (B), but also changed into exhibits HGO/1, HGO/1a, etc, etc, etc)..

This ploys appears to have been adopted in an attempt to conceal for the fact that Ann Eaton had handed over the second silencer (B) to the police on the 11th September 1985...
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Not the full results, only that the blood was human (this information was passed to Essex police by telephone on the 14th August 1985. The blood grouping results A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP2-1, were not obtained until after the same silencer under the exhibit reference 'DB/1' was resubmitted to the lab' on 30th August 1985 - remembering that this is the very same silencer (D) that Ron Cook dismantle and rebuilt beforehand! The blood type results were not obtained at the lab' until 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985.  Everything points to silencer (D) having the different exhibit references SBJ/1, SJ/1 and DB/1, at different stages of the police investigation, the other silencer (B) only being referred to after its submission to the lab' on 20th September 1985 as  possibly AE/1, or CAE/1 and then DRB/1, this being the silencer (B) that Ann Eaton handed over to DC Oakey on 11th September 1985, together with the telescopic sight, and the ammunition box that this (B) silencer was found inside. The telescopic sight, and the empty ammunition box later being given 'DRB' exhibit references just like the silencer (B), but also changed into exhibits HGO/1, HGO/1a, etc, etc, etc)..

This ploys appears to have been adopted in an attempt to conceal for the fact that Ann Eaton had handed over the second silencer (B) to the police on the 11th September 1985...

Hi Mike,

On Friday 6th September 1985 KENNEALLY's report said 'it appeared the murder suicide theory was correct'. ie case closed.

Have you seen KENNEALLY's report, is there mention of human blood in the 'silencer'?

thanks
« Last Edit: April 28, 2018, 06:08:AM by Nigel »
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6.01pm on Friday 6th September 1985 'Part 2' of the case began.

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Hi Mike,

On Friday 6th September 1985 KENNEALLY's report said 'it appeared the murder suicide theory was correct'. ie case closed.

Have you seen KENNEALLY's report, is there mention of human blood in the 'silencer'?

thanks

Kenneally left EP several month before JBs trial. I wonder why that was?  :-\

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Kenneally left EP several month before JBs trial. I wonder why that was?  :-\





The same reason that " Taff " went. They were rocking the boat.

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All we can be certain about now over three decades down the line, is that there were two silencers at the heart of this investigation, Silencer (D) and silencer (B)..

Silencer (D) was referred to at one time or another by the following different exhibit references, 'SBJ/1', 'SJ/1', and 'DB/1' but when the silencer was being referred to as 'SBJ/1' it never went to the Lab' it was simply collected up from the scene at whf on the first morning of the police investigation (7th August 1985) and deposited on DCI Jones desk, until the evening of 9th August 1985, when Jones and Jones returned 'it' back to the farmhouse, where it remained until 10th August 1985 when David Boutflour rediscovered it and took it away for storage at Peter Eaton's house! This (D) silencer was handed over by Peter Eaton to Stan Jones on the evening of 12th August 1985, who in turn handed it over to Ron Cook on the following day who proceeded to take 'it' to the Lab' at Huntingdon for the attention of Glynis Howard who examined 'it' that day (13th August 1985). At this time Ron Cook states that there wasn't an exhibit label attached to it (D) so he duly attached one himself, labelling it by the identifying mark of 'SJ/1', he states that he didn't know that Stan Jones had a middle Christian name, hence why he gave the silencer (D) the exhibit reference 'SJ/1'. Howard and Stan Jones both signed an exhibit label bearing the exhibit reference 'SJ/1' that same date. After carrying out a provisional examination of the silencer (D) she gave 'it' back to Ron Cook who wanted to fingerprint 'it'. Therefore the silencer (D) ended up back in Ron Cooks possession on the same day (13th August 1985)!

He fingerprinted 'it' (D) by oblique light test on 15th August 1985, and by cynoacrylate fumes (Superglue treatment) on the 23rd August 1985.

The next event of note involving the silencer (D) occurred on the 29th August 1985, when Ron Cook dismantled it (D), separating baffle places before rebuilding it, and screwing the rebuilt silencer directly onto the external thread on the end of the rifles barrel.

Then, for whatever reason by the following day (30th August 1985) the rebuilt silencer (D) was sent back to the Lab' albeit 'it' now had the exhibit reference of 'DB/1'.

We also now know by reference to Lab' documents, and in particular, handwritten notes made by the police ballistics expert, Malcolm Fletcher, that the Silencer (D) 'DB/1', was used in some sort of unofficial test firing of two control rounds via the anshuzt rifle prior to, or inclusive of the 12th September 1985, because documentary evidence exists to prove that on the following dates, 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985, Malcolm Fletcher made comparison tests between crime scene ammunition and control ammunition which had been loaded into the gun and unofficially test fired by himself, or someone he must have known the identity of!

Furthermore, by the 12th September 1985, Fletcher had dismantled the silencer (D) in the same manner that Ron Cook had previously, only this time Fletcher discovered the critical piece of a dried blood flek which he said was trapped in-between two of the silencers (D) 17 baffle plates!

 He duly arranged for the silencer (D) in 'its' current format (either in a dismantled state, or after he had rebuilt it in the same manner that Ron Cook had previously) to be handed over to the blood expert in this case, John Hayward! He handed over this silencer to Hayward on the 12th September 1985, who (John Hayward) then proceeded to analyse the critical flek of blood said by Fletcher to have been recovered from within the silencer that very same date!

 Between that moment (12th September 1985 and the 19th September 1985) a somewhat remarkable coincidence occurred, on 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985, since not only did the ballistic expert (Fletcher) make comparison tests between crime scene ammunition and control ammunition which had been fired via the anshuzt rifle in what can only be described as some sort of an unofficial test fire of the same, but the blood expert (John Hayward) obtained blood grouping results, A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP - 21, on the very same dates!

Additionally, on the 12th September 1985, Malcolm Fletcher supposedly performed a cloth pull through test (MDF/1) of the anshuzt rifles barrel, which failed to detect the presence of any blood loitering within the lining of the guns barrel. Yet to be fathomed out, is why the only other exhibited item bearing Malcolm Fletchers exhibit reference ('MDF') involved 14 spent cartridge cases Which even to this very day are still being retained at Huntingdon Lab' under the identifying mark 'MDF/100'?

 Nevertheless, what becomes absolutely clear, was that the silencer (D) at the Lab' between 30th August 1985 and the 19th September 1985, was not the same silencer (B) which contained the all important red paint particals from the red painted kitchen aga that became scratched with 'it' (B) at some stage!

Indeed, no sooner does the blood get found in one silencer (D) on 12th September 1985, and it be grouped between that date and the 19th September 1985, than Essex police are making arrangements to forward on the second silencer (B) to the same Lab', requesting amongst other things that 'it' be checked for blood - the date of submission of this second silencer is 20th September 1985, which didn't get looked at until the 25th September 1985...

Two different silencers, (D) and (B), at the Lab' together from the 20th September 1985, onwards..

The truly remarkable thing is though, that nobody at the Lab' acknowledges the fact that cops had sent them two different silencers, one (D) by 30th August 1985, the other (B) on the 20th September 1985! Infact, the opposite appears to be true, where Lab' officials went along with the practice of merging the two different silencers into the same one, where 'SBJ/1', 'SJ/1', 'DB/1' (inside which was discovered the blood), and 'DRB/1' (upon which was found the red paint), became merged together as one silencer, enabling the prosecution to mislead the jury that tried the case into being 'duped' about there only being one silencer which had the key blood evidence inside it, and the red paint from the kitchen aga on the outside of it...

They called 'this' silencer (B), 'DRB/1', court exhibit no.9...

Silencer (B) 'DRB/1' was not the silencer (D) exhibit 'DB/1', inside which could have been found Sheila Caffell's blood, because Ann Eaton did not hand over that (B) silencer to the cops until 11th September 1985, and by that stage the other silencer (D), 'DB/1' had already been present at the Lab' from 30th August 1985...

The same silencer (whether it be 'SBJ/1', 'SJ/1', 'DB/1', or 'DRB/1') could not have been in two different places and locations at one and the same time - 'it', (they) couldn't have been already at the Lab' where it had been sent by the police on the 30th August 1985, yet still be in possession of the relatives, in particular, Ann Eaton and David Boutflour until the 11th September 1985, and from then on still be in the possession of Essex police until the 20th September 1985!

Somebody (and it must involve a few of them) is responsible for deceiving the court regarding the silencer, blood and red paint evidence, which was relied upon to convict Jeremy Bamber of these five murders!

To further compound this deception, the exhibit references to the silencer at all stages, involving the police, the experts at the Lab', and the relatives themselves allocated various versions of the exhibit references to the silencer, making out a false case that there had been only one silencer, that silencer being 'DRB/1', court exhibit no.9, which had Sheila's blood inside 'it', and red paint from the scratched kitchen aga upon 'it', when it can now be established beyond doubt that 'this premis was' a 'totally false', one!
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Mike

where you say:

"Not the full results, only that the blood was human (this information was passed to Essex police by telephone on the 14th August 1985." (referring to 'D')

and

"Furthermore, by the 12th September 1985, Fletcher had dismantled the silencer (D) in the same manner that Ron Cook had previously, only this time Fletcher discovered the critical piece of a dried blood flek which he said was trapped in-between two of the silencers (D) 17 baffle plates!"

so the blood was found prior to 14th August 1985 for 'D'

I guess you mention the 12th September 1985 as thats when 'B' 2nd 'silencer' was handed in by family.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2018, 08:42:AM by Nigel »
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6.01pm on Friday 6th September 1985 'Part 2' of the case began.

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Kenneally left EP several month before JBs trial. I wonder why that was?  :-\
"The same reason that " Taff " went. They were rocking the boat"

Stephen Kavanagh set to retire in September...

http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/16190069.Chief_Constable_announces_plan_to_retire_in_September/
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6.01pm on Friday 6th September 1985 'Part 2' of the case began.

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Stephen Kavanagh set to retire in September...

http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/16190069.Chief_Constable_announces_plan_to_retire_in_September/

Perhaps they had unwittingly allowed themselves to become 'enablers'  :))

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Poor " Taff " Jones didn't have that privilege---------of retiring !