Can BT phones move of there own accord?

[Nigel]

The Fawn coloured Digital BT phone (with cable wrapped around).

It was in WHF's Office, on a shelf on morning of the Tragedy.

How did it manage to find its way to the Kitchen under a pile of magazines?

I find this VERY odd.

thanks

[lookout]

It was either intentionally hidden ( though very badly like the moderator ! ) or the housekeeper inadvertently put it there then other magazines had been piled on top of it. Take your pick.

[Nigel]

It was either intentionally hidden ( though very badly like the moderator ! ) or the housekeeper inadvertently put it there then other magazines had been piled on top of it. Take your pick.

This.

[lookout]

This.

Yes,I think so too. Nobody would put a fully working phone between a pile of magazines in the hope that it wouldn't be found-----------OR, that it WOULD be found as an indication of what went on and the purpose of it being " badly " hidden ! Who found it------the Boutflours ?

[Nigel]

ESSEX POLICE did not lie did they?

Surely not.

[Nigel]

NO PHONES DONT WALK!

[Nigel]

You are not going to tell me said BT phone moved from Office to kitchen by human intervention are you?

I'm starting to lose my faith in Human nature here!

[Nigel]

I would like to see the photograph(s) of the Office at WHF, showing the shelf. Taken by DC BIRD.

As I believe there is a Fawn coloured BT digital phone with cable wrapped around on said shelf.

I would also like to know why the photograph(s)  is/are being withheld under the 'Pii' ?

[lookout]

We'd all like to know why EP are hanging on to certain pics and docs Nigel.

[Nigel]

If the Fawn coloured Digital BT phone can be proved, that it was moved, as I believe it was.

Then the "Fresh evidence to challenge the silencer." can be challenged. 

As the 'Fawn coloured Digital BT phone' and the 'silencer' have a common denominator.

[Nigel]

I would be interested in @adam or @steve_uk answer to my question below...

"I would also like to know why the photograph(s) [of Office] is/are being withheld under the 'Pii' ?'

[Nigel]

I am willing to make a £10.00 charitable donation to @adam 's favourite charity on reply to my question above.

[Adam]

Court of Appeal

66.

There were normally four telephones at White House Farm (although there was only one telephone line).

A cream old-fashioned finger-dial telephone kept in the main bedroom (the bedroom telephone), a blue digital telephone in the first floor office (the office telephone), a cream cordless telephone kept in the kitchen but used around and outside the house (the cordless telephone) and a fawn digital telephone also kept in the kitchen (the kitchen telephone).

The only telephone with a memory recall feature was the cordless telephone but this had been faulty and was collected for repair on the morning of 5 August 1985.

67.

The telephone that had been found with the receiver off its cradle in the kitchen was in fact the bedroom telephone, which had been moved downstairs.

The kitchen telephone had been hidden amongst a pile of magazines in the kitchen.

The office telephone was in its normal place.

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Please supply the source that the phones were moved after Essex Police entered WHF.

[Steve_uk]

I would be interested in @adam or @steve_uk answer to my question below...

"I would also like to know why the photograph(s) [of Office] is/are being withheld under the 'Pii' ?'

I don't know the reason. Maybe it was because Ainsley got confused as to which telephone was located normally in the master bedroom and said wrongly it was in the office that morning.

I still think this is smoke and mirrors as the salient point surely is that there was no lifeline for the Bambers in their bedroom.

[Nigel]

@adam

DCI Ainsley described where the telephones were within the house on the morning of the 7th August 1985:

“In the kitchen, situated on top of a work surface beneath the hatchway leading to the bottle room, was a normal dial telephone, colour white. This was in working order. The handset was found removed from the cradle.  In the company office on the first floor was a blue coloured telephone with a digital display and memory. There is no evidence to suggest this telephone was used on the night in question but it was used by an officer of the Essex Police Tactical Firearms Group after the farmhouse was entered. This telephone will retrieve on the display only the last number dialled which is automatically erased by the next use. Found in the office was a third telephone on a shelf. It is believed that this telephone was from the main bedroom, having been unplugged and the cord wrapped around the set. This cannot be explained but the set and bedroom plug have been checked by telecommunications employees and both are in working order."