Author Topic: Who Killed Sheila Caffell? Part One: The Photograph  (Read 11154 times)

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Re: Who Killed Sheila Caffell?
« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2018, 11:13:AM »
Bamber may have become a suspect on the morning of the massacre. Several policemen were immediately suspiscious.

The police searching Bamber's cottage on the morning and finding a silencer, Nevill's watch & wallet would have been game over.

He went back later to collect the watch and wallet.

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Re: Who Killed Sheila Caffell?
« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2018, 11:18:AM »
Yes that's true. How could Sheila, a recovering anorexic, exhausted and keeping up appearances that week possibly have applied so much force that the rifle stock broke? Have any experiments ever been conducted in this area?

She couldn't.

The intial rifle blows were so powerful they left bruises on Nevill's forearms, wrists and smashed/dislodged a watch.

The head blows caused several skull lacerations, a broken rifle butt and knocked out Nevill. Which meant Bamber could re load.
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Re: Who Killed Sheila Caffell?
« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2018, 11:18:AM »
But he left the wallet behind remember. Maybe he thought better not to remove it lest it could be traced back forensically to him, so hid it under the rug to retrieve it at leisure at a future date.






Who would have missed the wallet and its contents ? Guess who ! Also there were the purses inside the handbags. These things vanished quickly without a trace--------and JB wasn't involved.
There'd have been no " future date " as JB handed the keys over to AE,her of the now" Magpie Residence ",no longer WHF.

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Re: Who Killed Sheila Caffell?
« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2018, 12:13:PM »
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We have considered the potential impact that Action 94 might have had on the jury. We think it is wholly unrealistic to suggest that the jury might have been persuaded by it that there had not been a violent struggle in the kitchen. Even if one discounts the evidence of the overturned stools and chairs and the broken sugar bowl, there was sufficient other evidence to suggest a violent struggle.

Mr Bamber's body lay across an overturned chair that can have had nothing to do with the actions of the TFG, that is not true! There was and is no evidence whatsoever that Jeremy Bamber was responsible for toppling over Neville Bambers body on the chair so that his head ended up inside the rim of the metal coal hod without injuring his face or head! It's quite obvious that Neville's body was toppled forward against the pressure of the internal door which projected his body in a cross between a forward and a slightly angled direction, by people pressing on the other side of the door!the light fitting was broken, which could have been broken during any struggle over the possession of the gun!there were the injuries apart from the shot wounds to Mr Bamber, which occurred when he got shot, as would be the case no matter who was responsible for shooting him! there was the piece broken off the rifle stock, which cannot be put down to any one specific individual, other than at the time it occurred Neville Bamber must have been involved..there were score marks under the mantelpiece where it had been struck by the sound moderator attached to the rifle. which first appeared a month after the date of the tragedy!

And there was Mr Bamber's watch lying damaged under a rug on the other side of the room.

which became detached from his wrist during the struggle he had with somebody! No evidence to prove that that other person was Jeremy Bamber, the other person could just so easily have been Sheila Caffell!
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Subsequent searches of this room revealed Nevill Bamber's blood stained wristwatch under a rug and a piece of broken butt from the rifle on the floor.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2018, 12:16:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Who Killed Sheila Caffell?
« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2018, 12:23:PM »
Bamber may have become a suspect on the morning of the massacre. Several policemen were immediately suspiscious. this statement cannot possibly be true, because police knew that Sheila was still alive inside the farmhouse long after her death was called downstairs in the kitchen (7.35am to 8.10am), on the far side of the bed (8.44am), on the bed (9.05am), and eventually she did die on the main bedroom floor (9.13am)...

The police searching Bamber's cottage on the morning and finding a silencer, Nevill's watch & wallet would have been game over. But instead, Stan Jones took possession of the Sound Moderator from the scene that first morning, and he was infuriated that police at the scene would not tell him (at around 11.15am) why Sheila's body had been moved to the floor from the bed, and why she now had two bullet entry wounds, where previously at 9.05 am she only had one...

He went back later to collect the watch and wallet. A good job he did otherwise the relatives would have snatched these!
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Re: Who Killed Sheila Caffell?
« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2018, 12:25:PM »
Bamber may have become a suspect on the morning of the massacre. Several policemen were immediately suspiscious.

The police searching Bamber's cottage on the morning and finding a silencer, Nevill's watch & wallet would have been game over.

He went back later to collect the watch and wallet.





JB did NOT return for the watch and wallet---------the relatives beat him to it.

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Re: Who Killed Sheila Caffell?
« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2018, 01:11:PM »
I remember once I was in a casino lounge watching the football. A guy sitting infront of me jumped up and celebrated when a goal was scored. While doing so his watch fell off his arm and it landed my lap (narrowly missing my drink) We all laughted.

No fight, no lacerations or any contact needed for his watch to fall off. Had it not landed in my lap it may have landed on the floor and maybe got brocken  :o

So there you go.
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Re: Who Killed Sheila Caffell?
« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2018, 01:14:PM »
Sorry Mike, I forgot that the police shot Sheila.

I agree there was a struggle in the kitchen. The struggle over the control of the rifle resulted in the aga scratches, smashed ceiling light & some of the upturned furniture. However this would not have damaged or dislodged the watch.

The watch was damaged and dislodged from Nevill's wrist when Nevill put his forearms infront of his head.  To shield rifle blows so forceful  Nevill's forearms and wrists were bruised.

Once Nevill's arms stopped providing head protection, the rifle blows started hitting Nevill's head. Giving him multiple head lacerations & knocking him out. This was also when the rifle stock broke.

With Nevill knocked out, Sheila could now breach, chamber & re load.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2018, 01:28:PM by Adam »
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