Police covert surveillance show Jeremy and Brett selling stuff.

[Caroline]

Nothing to do with the thread but Jon Venables has been attacked in prison - There are pictures in circulation on the internet that look nothing like him.

[Jane]

Nothing to do with the thread but Jon Venables has been attacked in prison - There are pictures circulation on the internet that look nothing like him.

I guess the silence here says much more than words.

[Caroline]

I guess the silence here says much more than words.

It dangerous to circulate pictures though, they look nothing like Venables and they aren't even of the same person. This this usually when someone innocent get hurt or worse.

[lookout]

I guess the silence here says much more than words.

I can tell you why. It's now been reported that James had injuries of a sexual nature !! Poor little mite.This information has only just come to light.

[Jane]

It dangerous to circulate pictures though, they look nothing like Venables and they aren't even of the same person. This this usually when someone innocent get hurt or worse.

Oh dear. We could tell them a thing or two about pictures that are NOTHING like the people we were told they were. This is the sort of thing that can whip up blind and unreasoning animal instincts in otherwise reasonable people.

[lookout]

Oh dear. We could tell them a thing or two about pictures that are NOTHING like the people we were told they were. This is the sort of thing that can whip up blind and unreasoning animal instincts in otherwise reasonable people.

I wouldn't have thought it mattered in prison---------maybe a couple more recent inmates deserve a thrashing !!

[Jane]

I wouldn't have thought it mattered in prison---------maybe a couple more recent inmates deserve a thrashing !!

I fear, that if we lived by the rules you advocate, we'd descend into chaos. It might start with turning a blind eye when those responsible for committing horrendous and unforgivable crimes get, what some believe, is coming to them, above and beyond the prison sentence they're serving. It would probably end in ungovernable mob rule, where everyone who's disliked by someone else has to live in fear for their safety.

[lookout]

I fear, that if we lived by the rules you advocate, we'd descend into chaos. It might start with turning a blind eye when those responsible for committing horrendous and unforgivable crimes get, what some believe, is coming to them, above and beyond the prison sentence they're serving. It would probably end in ungovernable mob rule, where everyone who's disliked by someone else has to live in fear for their safety.

For goodness sake. Two monsters have been jailed for 30 odd years each------does it matter if they get what will come to them ? No, because their poor victims having already suffered more than half their lives will be affected for the rest of them,with flashbacks.
Both evil characters who don't deserve to live----or better still,what you DON'T advocate and that's to be forever in fear of being lynched for the next 30 years. 

[Jane]

For goodness sake. Two monsters have been jailed for 30 odd years each------does it matter if they get what will come to them ? No, because their poor victims having already suffered more than half their lives will be affected for the rest of them,with flashbacks.
Both evil characters who don't deserve to live----or better still,what you DON'T advocate and that's to be forever in fear of being lynched for the next 30 years.

There's no denying that they're where they should be. It would be preferable for it to be on a "life means life" basis.It would be better if they weren't, for their safety, put in solitary confinement. They should certainly experience the fear their victims felt.

[Caroline]

For goodness sake. Two monsters have been jailed for 30 odd years each------does it matter if they get what will come to them ? No, because their poor victims having already suffered more than half their lives will be affected for the rest of them,with flashbacks.
Both evil characters who don't deserve to live----or better still,what you DON'T advocate and that's to be forever in fear of being lynched for the next 30 years.

That's how a lot of people would have felt when Jeremy was attacked. Personally, I don't think we should turn a blind eye at all or prison would be nothing more than an animal house.  You're a contradiction Lookout.

[lookout]

That's how a lot of people would have felt when Jeremy was attacked. Personally, I don't think we should turn a blind eye at all or prison would be nothing more than an animal house.  You're a contradiction Lookout.

No,I'm no contradiction,I'm a Realist.
As you well know I'm a supporter of JB because of his innocence and just because some idiot in the same prison couldn't wait his turn to use the phone,he decided to glass JB which isn't the same as having committed a heinous crime outside of prison.
Yes,it was a cruel and vicious attack which NOBODY saw coming !

[Jane]

No,I'm no contradiction,I'm a Realist.
As you well know I'm a supporter of JB because of his innocence and just because some idiot in the same prison couldn't wait his turn to use the phone,he decided to glass JB which isn't the same as having committed a heinous crime outside of prison.
Yes,it was a cruel and vicious attack which NOBODY saw coming !

Whilst the reason given for the attack may have been the use of a phone, it MAY not be the real reason. After all, the attacker would have had to have the piece of glass on his person -which is a rather odd thing to do just to make a phone call- and you seem to forget, because of your rose tinteds, that MANY see Jeremy in exactly the same way as you see those you believe to have committed heinous crimes outside of prison. YOUR way appears to be one way for everyone else but something entirely different for Jeremy. THAT'S what makes you a contradiction.

[lookout]

Whilst the reason given for the attack may have been the use of a phone, it MAY not be the real reason. After all, the attacker would have had to have the piece of glass on his person -which is a rather odd thing to do just to make a phone call- and you seem to forget, because of your rose tinteds, that MANY see Jeremy in exactly the same way as you see those you believe to have committed heinous crimes outside of prison. YOUR way appears to be one way for everyone else but something entirely different for Jeremy. THAT'S what makes you a contradiction.

You always have to put a spin on something------probably,like the Government,to avoid agreeing,or admitting the truth !

Isn't it plain that because I see Jeremy as an innocent caught up in red-tape and bureaucracy,that your every post has to involve HIM ? Whereas I speak for the millions who think and would say the same as I do--------regardless of who's involved with what.

The troublesome article who'd attacked Jeremy was your typical no-hoper,the dross of society whose actions that day got him in more hot-water than he already was. It was an unprovoked attack from a slob who didn't know any better----------all because HE wanted to use the phone NOW,which has nothing whatsoever to do with rose-tinted specs  on my part !

If anyone is contradictory-----it's YOU ! Think about it.

[Jane]

You always have to put a spin on something------probably,like the Government,to avoid agreeing,or admitting the truth !

Isn't it plain that because I see Jeremy as an innocent caught up in red-tape and bureaucracy,that your every post has to involve HIM ? Whereas I speak for the millions who think and would say the same as I do--------regardless of who's involved with what.

The troublesome article who'd attacked Jeremy was your typical no-hoper,the dross of society whose actions that day got him in more hot-water than he already was. It was an unprovoked attack from a slob who didn't know any better----------all because HE wanted to use the phone NOW,which has nothing whatsoever to do with rose-tinted specs  on my part !

If anyone is contradictory-----it's YOU ! Think about it.

It's not spin, though. I just accept there there are several ways of looking a situations -according to where one stands with it- and not necessarily clear-cut right or wrong answers. You have fully outlined the character of the person who attacked Jeremy A) as you want him to be B) as you've been told he was. What I'm 100% certain of is that you have no personal knowledge of this person. It MAY be that in your guess work/repetition of someone else's words, you're correct..................but there's an equally good chance that you've blackened his character to whiten Jeremy's.

[lookout]

It's not spin, though. I just accept there there are several ways of looking a situations -according to where one stands with it- and not necessarily clear-cut right or wrong answers. You have fully outlined the character of the person who attacked Jeremy A) as you want him to be B) as you've been told he was. What I'm 100% certain of is that you have no personal knowledge of this person. It MAY be that in your guess work/repetition of someone else's words, you're correct..................but there's an equally good chance that you've blackened his character to whiten Jeremy's.

How ridiculous. To blacken a person's character in order to keep Jeremy's white ? If you'd seen a pic of that slob you might have understood.As it happened I do remember the story and if you had anything about you you'd look it up and see for yourself instead of accusing me of being negative toward anyone other than Jeremy. Whether the victim of the attack had been JB or not,it wouldn't make a scrap of difference how I viewed the attacker.