Author Topic: When did the relatives tell Julie about the lockable from outside window ?  (Read 6440 times)

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Offline David1819

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Even the painter himself had been working right up until the tragedy which would mean that certain areas there'd have been wet paint outside. JB would have known that at the time so would he have taken the chance to have risked leaving his mark ? No of course not.

The nessesaties to make things fit as a result of entrenchment are so severe, it will be argued that JB repainted the window that night to cover his tracks.

If all else fails, include Sheila as a participant in Jeremy’s plan.
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The nessesaties to make things fit as a result of entrenchment are so severe, it will be argued that JB repainted the window that night to cover his tracks.

If all else fails, include Sheila as a participant in Jeremy’s plan.






Well if he fiddled and faffed around using cord/string to unlock a window,he'd have also found time for a bit of re-painting while he was at it,or even Sheila as she was the artist.

All JB seemed to have done in all this was cover his tracks. It's a miracle he found time to do anything else,in particular murdering 5 people as well.

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Well if he fiddled and faffed around using cord/string to unlock a window,he'd have also found time for a bit of re-painting while he was at it,or even Sheila as she was the artist.

All JB seemed to have done in all this was cover his tracks. It's a miracle he found time to do anything else,in particular murdering 5 people as well.

He wouldn't have needed to "fiddle and faff". He'd have had it down to a fine art, because he'd have had to know, in advance, that it was possible. Having to shoot Sheila twice and wrestle with Nevill wouldn't have been something he'd bargained for.

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Well if he fiddled and faffed around using cord/string to unlock a window,he'd have also found time for a bit of re-painting while he was at it,or even Sheila as she was the artist.

All JB seemed to have done in all this was cover his tracks. It's a miracle he found time to do anything else,in particular murdering 5 people as well.

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The nessesaties to make things fit as a result of entrenchment are so severe, it will be argued that JB repainted the window that night to cover his tracks.

If all else fails, include Sheila as a participant in Jeremy’s plan.

Oh, that's rich coming from you! Mr square peg in a round hole!  :o
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Being as the windows had been freshly painted any interference with the locks would have left their mark,being tacky in the areas such as the locking devices unless the painter was a thorough tradesman who first burnt the old paint off---------which I'd very much doubt.
Even the Aga had layers of old paint which made it prone to the least scuffing-----as was seen.

Lookout, Jeremy DID enter through this window and left no marks after the murders. If he had left the window open, he only had to push it up - however, the window wasn't painted the day before, how long do you think it takes paint to dry? If he did lock it, the cord would leave no marks. I don't know why you always have to make excuses, the FACT is that he could have entered and left this way. It doesn't mean he did - just that it was possible!
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Lookout, Jeremy DID enter through this window and left no marks after the murders. If he had left the window open, he only had to push it up - however, the window wasn't painted the day before, how long do you think it takes paint to dry? If he did lock it, the cord would leave no marks. I don't know why you always have to make excuses, the FACT is that he could have entered and left this way. It doesn't mean he did - just that it was possible!






C'mon Caroline,they're no more " excuses " than some of yours are they ? The last time I looked,everything that's been posted here has been based on speculation and not including any backup from a proven source,so our " excuses " are every bit as good as yours ?

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C'mon Caroline,they're no more " excuses " than some of yours are they ? The last time I looked,everything that's been posted here has been based on speculation and not including any backup from a proven source,so our " excuses " are every bit as good as yours ?

Not when you keep on insisting that the paint on the windows was still wet.

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Lookout, Jeremy DID enter through this window and left no marks after the murders. If he had left the window open, he only had to push it up - however, the window wasn't painted the day before, how long do you think it takes paint to dry? If he did lock it, the cord would leave no marks. I don't know why you always have to make excuses, the FACT is that he could have entered and left this way. It doesn't mean he did - just that it was possible!






Okay,I'd like to see the latest submission/proof reporting that JB HAD entered via the window,please. None of your cobbled afterthoughts thankyou.

No " coulds/possibly's/may-haves allowed as you appear to be brutally certain about this-----as with the wallet and trailer. Weren't these also excuses to implicate him even further ?

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Okay,I'd like to see the latest submission/proof reporting that JB HAD entered via the window,please. None of your cobbled afterthoughts thankyou.

No " coulds/possibly's/may-haves allowed as you appear to be brutally certain about this-----as with the wallet and trailer. Weren't these also excuses to implicate him even further ?

Tell us, Lookout, please, which you consider to be more misleading. "Could/possibly/may have which are all admissions of speculation/uncertainty, OR blatant statements of made up/say it with enough conviction and it will be believed "fact"?

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Caroline,you've emphasised that JB DID enter via the window---------then tailed off by stating that " could have and possibly. Do I detect uncertainty or what ? He either DID or he DIDN'T. Remember,you're on the side of the" prosecution ".

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Caroline,you've emphasised that JB DID enter via the window---------then tailed off by stating that " could have and possibly. Do I detect uncertainty or what ? He either DID or he DIDN'T. Remember,you're on the side of the" prosecution ".

You've insisted that the "recently painted" window frames were still sticky. The prosecution only had to establish that it was possible for him to have entered via a window. As he'd already admitted to having done so......................

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C'mon Caroline,they're no more " excuses " than some of yours are they ? The last time I looked,everything that's been posted here has been based on speculation and not including any backup from a proven source,so our " excuses " are every bit as good as yours ?

Errrrr, just a sec, I always post sources - the same can NOT be said of you. The FACT is that Bamber could enter WHF when the windows were locked by his OWN ADMISSION. No one has to prove which window he used because by his OWN ADMISSION, it was possible for him to do so!
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Caroline,you've emphasised that JB DID enter via the window---------then tailed off by stating that " could have and possibly. Do I detect uncertainty or what ? He either DID or he DIDN'T. Remember,you're on the side of the" prosecution ".

What I sated was that AFTER the murders he DID enter WHF via the bathroom window so COULD have done so on the night of the murders! Read his interview - he admits it! (JEEEEEEZE!!!!!).
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Errrrr, just a sec, I always post sources - the same can NOT be said of you. The FACT is that Bamber could enter WHF when the windows were locked by his OWN ADMISSION. No one has to prove which window he used because by his OWN ADMISSION, it was possible for him to do so!






"Could "----but didn't.