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David's 'untrue' claim today.
« on: January 03, 2018, 06:33:PM »
David today said -

'More or less everything Adam claims is untrue.'

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This is incorrect and everything I post has at least one source. I will post some again.

This is unlike David who has posted a lot things that are untrue -

He has a forensic evidence breakthrough.

Bamber has written 6 letters to him.

He cycled to a meeting with Bamber's legal advisors.

He was never a guilter.

The court of appeal is not a valid source.

The rifle bullets bounce off walls.

He accuses me of posting 'gish gash' when sourced evidence is supplied.

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I will be happy if these things prove to be true. It will actually create good discussion.

What was said in the meeting with Bamber's legal advisors he cycled to would be a good start. Surely it's not still a secret.



« Last Edit: January 03, 2018, 06:43:PM by Adam »
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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2018, 06:38:PM »
Sources are in capitals. So not sure how they can be 'untrue' -

Perfectly clean palm of hands on Sheila - Not disputed - COA

One blood mark on back of hand of Sheila - Not disputed - COA 

Extremley low levels of lead found on hands on Sheila.  Not consistent with handling a rifle. Significantly higher traces expected - Not disputed - COA

Well manicured nails on Sheila - Not disputed - COA. 

No broken nails - Not disputed COA. 

Nails in tact - Not disputed - COA. 

No marks or indentations on Sheila's fingers - Not disputed - COA. 

No blood on finger tips - Not disputed - COA. 

No dirt on finger tips - Not disputed - COA. 

No powder on finger tips - Not disputed - COA. 

Sheila's time limits - Not disputed - POLICE, BAMBER.

No trace of any lead dust coating on Sheila - Not disputed - COA. 

No traces of the lubricant from re loading twice - Not disputed - COA

Very clean feet - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA. 

Feet free from significant blood staining - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA. 

Bamber doing nothing between 3.10am - 3.26/36am - Not disputed - BAMBER

No debris such as sugar on feet - Not disputed - COA.

No foot injuries after bare footed aggressive movement around big house & brutal fight - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS, PATHOLOGIST. 

Only Sheila Caffell's blood on nightdress - Not disputed - COA. 

No presence of firearm residue on nightdress - Not disputed - COA. 

No trace of rifle oil on nightdress - Not disputed - COA. 

No mention of nightdress damage from agressive movement and brutal kitchen fight - Not disputed - COA. 

No facial injuries on Sheila - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS, PATHOLOGIST. 

Bamber/Sheila avoiding kitchen fight injuries - Not disputed - FORUM. 

Nevill's massive height/weight advantage over Sheila - Not disputed - ACCEPTED FACT. 

Impossibility of shower removing evidence off Sheila - Not disputed - SCIENTIFIC FACT. 

Impossibility of Sheila showering after killing herself - Not disputed - SCIENTIFIC FACT. 

Nevill being found bare footed in pyjamas suggesting had just got out of bed - Not disputed - PHOTOS. 

Sheila being found bare footed in pyjamas suggesting she had just got out of bed - Not disputed - PHOTOS. 

Paint in silencer - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES. . 

Aga scratch's - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Blood in silencer - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

No blood in the rifle end - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Sheila's legs pulled after second shot - Not disputed - COA. 

Sheila's blood underneath the bible - Not disputed - COA. 

A lot of blood on Nevill's side of the bed - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Large scale multiple mental & physical effects of Haloperidol - Not disputed. - INTERNET ARTICLES, YOUTUBE. 

Sheila having Haloperidol in her body - Not disputed - COA. 

Sheila's condition hours before the massacre - Not disputed. Bamber being a main witness - BAMBER & OTHER PEOPLE. 

Sheila under sedation - Not disputed - COA. 

Easy window entrance into WHF - Not disputed. Agreed by Bamber. - BAMBER. 

Shutting kitchen window from outside - Disputed but 20 independent sources prove otherwise - 20 SOURCES IN THE LIBRARY. 

No better massacre weapon options - Not disputed - FORUM. 

Professor Herbert Leon Mcdonell - Not disputed after Bamber hired him - WILKES'S BOOK. 

Easy bike routes to WHF - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Bike brought to Bamber's cottage just before the massacre - Not disputed - BAMBERS POLICE INTERVIEWS. 

June not waking/getting shot in bed - Not disputed - COA. 

Nevill's back burns - Not disputed. Suggestion burns were caused minus silencer rejected - BAMBER, TONIGHT PROGRAMME. 

2012 CCRC court judgement - judicial review request made & rejected - JUDICIAL REVIEW DOCUMENT. 

The twins not waking - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Bamber's call to the police - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Nevill's horrific injuries - Not disputed - COURT OF APPEAL. 

Sheila's time limits - Not disputed - POLICE STATEMENTS. 

No valid Sheila scenario - Not disputed - OS & FORUM. 

Bamber's 3am call to Julie - Not disputed - BAMBER. 

Nevill's 2/4 second call to Bamber - Not disputed - BAMBER. 

Bamber asking the police to pick him up - Not disputed - WILKES, CRIMES, HEARTS & CORONETS.

Nevill's back burns - Not disputed - BAMBER. 

Ease for a man to lift & carry a woman - Not disputed. YOUTUBE VIDEO. 

Crime scenes of 5 individuals - Not disputed - COA. 

June & the twins not waking - Not disputed - COA. 

The found hacksaw - Not disputed - BAMBER. 

Bible on Sheila's arm- Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Execution period 12am - 3am - Not disputed - BAMBER

Housekeeper evidence of items around the sink being moved - Not disputed- PB WS, WILKES'S BOOK

Only Sheila receiving a contact shot in a location that produces back splatter- Not disputed, COA.

Bloodied plam print on Sheila's nightdress - Not disputed. COA

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Hopefully David will apologise.
 
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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2018, 06:59:PM »
He cycled to a meeting with Bamber's legal advisors.

I don't even have a bike. But thanks for proving what I have already accused you of doing. Making stuff up.

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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2018, 07:04:PM »
Sources are in capitals. So not sure how they can be 'untrue' -

Perfectly clean palm of hands on Sheila - Not disputed - COA

One blood mark on back of hand of Sheila - Not disputed - COA

Extremley low levels of lead found on hands on Sheila.  Not consistent with handling a rifle. Significantly higher traces expected - Not disputed - COA

Well manicured nails on Sheila - Not disputed - COA.

No broken nails - Not disputed COA.

Nails in tact - Not disputed - COA.

No marks or indentations on Sheila's fingers - Not disputed - COA.

No blood on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No dirt on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No powder on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

Sheila's time limits - Not disputed - POLICE, BAMBER.

No trace of any lead dust coating on Sheila - Not disputed - COA.

No traces of the lubricant from re loading twice - Not disputed - COA

Very clean feet - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA.

Feet free from significant blood staining - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA.

Bamber doing nothing between 3.10am - 3.26/36am - Not disputed - BAMBER

No debris such as sugar on feet - Not disputed - COA.

No foot injuries after bare footed aggressive movement around big house & brutal fight - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS, PATHOLOGIST.

Only Sheila Caffell's blood on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No presence of firearm residue on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No trace of rifle oil on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No mention of nightdress damage from agressive movement and brutal kitchen fight - Not disputed - COA.

No facial injuries on Sheila - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS, PATHOLOGIST.

Bamber/Sheila avoiding kitchen fight injuries - Not disputed - FORUM.

Nevill's massive height/weight advantage over Sheila - Not disputed - ACCEPTED FACT.

Impossibility of shower removing evidence off Sheila - Not disputed - SCIENTIFIC FACT.

Impossibility of Sheila showering after killing herself - Not disputed - SCIENTIFIC FACT.

Nevill being found bare footed in pyjamas suggesting had just got out of bed - Not disputed - PHOTOS.

Sheila being found bare footed in pyjamas suggesting she had just got out of bed - Not disputed - PHOTOS.

Paint in silencer - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES. .

Aga scratch's - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

Blood in silencer - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

No blood in the rifle end - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

Sheila's legs pulled after second shot - Not disputed - COA.

Sheila's blood underneath the bible - Not disputed - COA.

A lot of blood on Nevill's side of the bed - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Large scale multiple mental & physical effects of Haloperidol - Not disputed. - INTERNET ARTICLES, YOUTUBE.

Sheila having Haloperidol in her body - Not disputed - COA.

Sheila's condition hours before the massacre - Not disputed. Bamber being a main witness - BAMBER & OTHER PEOPLE.

Sheila under sedation - Not disputed - COA.

Easy window entrance into WHF - Not disputed. Agreed by Bamber. - BAMBER.

Shutting kitchen window from outside - Disputed but 20 independent sources prove otherwise - 20 SOURCES IN THE LIBRARY.

No better massacre weapon options - Not disputed - FORUM.

Professor Herbert Leon Mcdonell - Not disputed after Bamber hired him - WILKES'S BOOK.

Easy bike routes to WHF - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

Bike brought to Bamber's cottage just before the massacre - Not disputed - BAMBERS POLICE INTERVIEWS.

June not waking/getting shot in bed - Not disputed - COA.

Nevill's back burns - Not disputed. Suggestion burns were caused minus silencer rejected - BAMBER, TONIGHT PROGRAMME.

2012 CCRC court judgement - judicial review request made & rejected - JUDICIAL REVIEW DOCUMENT.

The twins not waking - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

Bamber's call to the police - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

Nevill's horrific injuries - Not disputed - COURT OF APPEAL.

Sheila's time limits - Not disputed - POLICE STATEMENTS.

No valid Sheila scenario - Not disputed - OS & FORUM.

Bamber's 3am call to Julie - Not disputed - BAMBER.

Nevill's 2/4 second call to Bamber - Not disputed - BAMBER.

Bamber asking the police to pick him up - Not disputed - WILKES, CRIMES, HEARTS & CORONETS.

Nevill's back burns - Not disputed - BAMBER.

Ease for a man to lift & carry a woman - Not disputed. YOUTUBE VIDEO.

Crime scenes of 5 individuals - Not disputed - COA.

June & the twins not waking - Not disputed - COA.

The found hacksaw - Not disputed - BAMBER.

Bible on Sheila's arm- Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Execution period 12am - 3am - Not disputed - BAMBER

Housekeeper evidence of items around the sink being moved - Not disputed- PB WS, WILKES'S BOOK

Only Sheila receiving a contact shot in a location that produces back splatter- Not disputed, COA.

Bloodied plam print on Sheila's nightdress - Not disputed. COA

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Hopefully David will apologise.
 

How to make a list of 60 pieces like Adam.

Step 1: Take 10 pieces of outdated and refuted evidence.

Step 2: Turn those 10 pieces into bullshit by claiming they are undisputed.

Step 3: Turn those 10 pieces of Bullshit into 50 by rewording those 10 pieces of bullshit fives times over.

Step 4: Insert 5 pieces of factual evidence that don't prove anything in order to make the other 50 pieces of bullshit look honest.

Step 5: Make up five more pieces of bullshit

Step 6: Make up a source for each piece of Bullshit by misquoting or misattributing the information to a any particular person.  Typing "COA undisputed" at the end will be adequate.

Done.

Optional step 7: If someone refutes the bullshit. Just copy and paste it all over again and pretend it never was refuted in the first place.

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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 07:06:PM »
How to make a list of 60 pieces like Adam.

Step 1: Take 10 pieces of outdated and refuted evidence.

Step 2: Turn those 10 pieces into bullshit by claiming they are undisputed.

Step 3: Turn those 10 pieces of Bullshit into 50 by rewording those 10 pieces of bullshit fives times over.

Step 4: Insert 5 pieces of factual evidence that don't prove anything in order to make the other 50 pieces of bullshit look honest.

Step 5: Make up five more pieces of bullshit

Step 6: Make up a source for each piece of Bullshit by misquoting or misattributing the information to a any particular person.  Typing "COA undisputed" at the end will be adequate.

Done.

Optional step 7: If someone refutes the bullshit. Just copy and paste it all over again and pretend it never was refuted in the first place.

This is exactly what you do!
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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2018, 07:13:PM »
David today said -

'More or less everything Adam claims is untrue.'

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This is incorrect and everything I post has at least one source. I will post some again.

This is unlike David who has posted a lot things that are untrue -

He has a forensic evidence breakthrough.

Bamber has written 6 letters to him.

He cycled to a meeting with Bamber's legal advisors.

He was never a guilter.

The court of appeal is not a valid source.

The rifle bullets bounce off walls.

He accuses me of posting 'gish gash' when sourced evidence is supplied.

------------

I will be happy if these things prove to be true. It will actually create good discussion.

What was said in the meeting with Bamber's legal advisors he cycled to would be a good start. Surely it's not still a secret.

David just confirmed my last point of the 'untrue' claims he makes.

He can't handle incriminating evidence which has sources.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2018, 07:14:PM by Adam »
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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2018, 07:15:PM »
Susan -

David did you travel by air sea road or just walked or maybe all modes of travel were involved in your quest to meet with JB's Legal Team hehehe

David -

'It took me under 45 minutes to get there.'

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How did you travel to you're meeting ?

« Last Edit: January 03, 2018, 07:16:PM by Adam »
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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2018, 07:18:PM »
David didn't deny cycling to his meeting with Bamber's legal advisors -

Susan -

David hahaha on a bike with all your evidence in a saddle bag   


David -

Just a USB.

Talking of bikes. Did you ever see my 3D reconstruction of Jeremy on his way?
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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2018, 07:22:PM »
I'm sure David will clear everything up regarding his aledged meeting with Bamber's legal advisors.

Did he get a bus, cycle, drive, walk or get Trudie Benjamin to pick him up ?
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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 06:29:PM »
I'm sure David will clear everything up regarding his aledged meeting with Bamber's legal advisors.

Did he get a bus, cycle, drive, walk or get Trudie Benjamin to pick him up ?

erm is there a point.

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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2018, 10:19:PM »
I'm sure David will clear everything up regarding his aledged meeting with Bamber's legal advisors.

Did he get a bus, cycle, drive, walk or get Trudie Benjamin to pick him up ?

Are you searching for forensic evidence still? 😀

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Re: David's 'untrue' claim today.
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2018, 12:10:PM »
what happend in a meeting with legal advisers can not be disclosed on a public its agianst the law.