Relatives invited to a dinner party by Essex police after convictions secured...

[mike tesko]

Jeremy was such a clever killer that he even fooled police into recording two different police files, one where it was four murders and a suicide, the other when it was five murders!

He was such a devious and cunning murderer that he fooled cops into making police radio logs containing information that there were two bodies downstairs from 7.35am, onward, and that there had only been three bodies upstairs by 8.10am! He also paved the way for cops to try and take the matter through the Coroner's court system, as a case of four murders and a suicide! So devious and cunning was Jeremy that he even got the cops editing and taking other people's witness statement contents, he got them to change exhibit references of key exhibits, and he even was able to make the cops tamper with the bodies of victims and create a false photographic schedule!

[Jane]

Jeremy was such a clever killer that he even fooled police into recording two different police files, one where it was four murders and a suicide, the other when it was five murders!

He was, indeed. He planned it well. The police believed everything he told them. He NEARLY got away with it...........but he reckoned without the intervention and suspicions of his relatives.

[mike tesko]

He was, indeed. He planned it well. The police believed everything he told them. He NEARLY got away with it...........but he reckoned without the intervention and suspicions of his relatives.

Jeremy Bamber didn't shoot or kill anyone, he had no way of influencing the police in the things they got up to and did! He didn't force them to pass key police radio messages, or get them to bring a rifle from the box room window and place it with Sheila's body later on and stage his sister's death scene on the bedroom floor! These coppers knew exactly what they have done, they tried to pull the wool over everybody's eyes, including the relatives about where Sheila's body was confronted by the raid team at point of first contact - cops say Sheila was downstairs, they said it and it was recorded by them that hers must have been the female body downstairs in the kitchen described as a suicide by 7.45am! You can all pretend to ignore the glaring facts that Sheila's body was downstairs in the kitchen all you like, but she was there alright, and her body was described as being there in addition to Neville Bambers body, not as a replacement for it, or if it! But for Stan Jones and Mick Clark's blabbing about Sheila's and June's bodies being laid side by side on top of the bed when found, the case would almost certainly been treated as four murders and a suicide, with the victims bodies being found as per the police radio log contents as part of the first police file, SC/688/85, that is Neville and Sheila's bodies downstairs in the kitchen, June's body upstairs in the main bedroom, and the two child victims in bed in a separate bedroom!

[Jane]

Jeremy Bamber didn't shoot or kill anyone, he had no way of influencing the police in the things they got up to and did! He didn't force them to pass key police radio messages, or get them to bring a rifle from the box room window and place it with Sheila's body later on and stage his sister's death scene on the bedroom floor! These coppers knew exactly what they have done, they tried to pull the wool over everybody's eyes, including the relatives about where Sheila's body was confronted by the raid team at point of first contact - cops say Sheila was downstairs, they said it and it was recorded by them that hers must have been the female body downstairs in the kitchen described as a suicide by 7.45am! You can all pretend to ignore the glaring facts that Sheila's body was downstairs in the kitchen all you like, but she was there alright, and her body was described as being there in addition to Neville Bambers body, not as a replacement for it, or if it! But for Stan Jones and Mick Clark's blabbing about Sheila's and June's bodies being laid side by side on top of the bed when found, the case would almost certainly been treated as four murders and a suicide, with the victims bodies being found as per the police radio log contents as part of the first police file, SC/688/85, that is Neville and Sheila's bodies downstairs in the kitchen, June's body upstairs in the main bedroom, and the two child victims in bed in a separate bedroom!

Well you may think it would have been perfectly correct for police to tell relatives the full gory details of how the bodies were found. I, however, believe it was correct, kinder and perfectly understandable that they gave them a sanitized version of that horrifying scene. I'm inclined to want to wait until the police person you claim to be responsible for Sheila's death, publicly admits to it before I believe ANY police person to have been responsible.

[mike tesko]

Well you may think it would have been perfectly correct for police to tell relatives the full gory details of how the bodies were found. I, however, believe it was correct, kinder and perfectly understandable that they gave them a sanitized version of that horrifying scene. I'm inclined to want to wait until the police person you claim to be responsible for Sheila's death, publicly admits to it before I believe ANY police person to have been responsible.

Well, you won't have to wait long, hopefully!

Two bodies downstairs between 7.35am and 8.10am (police file SC/688/85), the other three bodies found upstairs (police file SC/688/85) - cops intended to rush this investigation (four murders, and a suicide) through the Coroner's court system, to hide their culpability in the overhaul handling of the seige /tragedy!

In the other version of events, only one body downstairs between whenever, and whenever, and four bodies found upstairs, by whenever (Police file SC/786/85), the case the cops ran with through the Criminal court system!

But for the slip of the tongue by Stan Jones and Mick Clark's in the company of Ann Eaton and others at Jeremy's cottage, the latter case (SC/786/85) would never have got off the ground...

The problem Essex police are currently facing is that there now exists in the public domain, 'other features' of the evidence which now falls to be considered as linking events between the first police file (SC/688/85) and the second police file (SC/786/85), where Sheila's body was dealt with on top of the bed in the main bedroom with a Bible on her chest and the rifle on the bed in between the bodies of June Bamber and herself!


Essex police made very significant errors in the way they covered up the way they abused the bodies of victims at the scene, culminating in the staging of Sheila Caffell's death scene on the main bedroom floor, and then got a second team of SOCO to take pictures of the staged death scene so that they could present the case that Sheila had been found as shown in PC Birds photographs which he did not start taking until after 10.00am, that morning!

[Caroline]

How could Essex police justify wasting public funded cash, being spent on these prosecution witnesses?

Why would the powers that be, go to such lengths?

Dunno but it's hardly a motive to frame someone.