Author Topic: Disturbing Evidence, which confirms that cops handed back silencer to the family  (Read 119864 times)

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Offline Kaldin

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They didn't

So they did ask him if that was OK?

If so, why would he agree?

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So they did ask him if that was OK?

If so, why would he agree?

Yes he agreed - why wouldn't he?
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Yes he agreed - why wouldn't he?

Because there might be things he'd overlooked. Remember things didn't go to plan.  There was the silencer for a start - it was allegedly in a cupboard for anyone to find. Also, why on earth would he want his relatives poking around in a house full of stuff which belonged to him?

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Because there might be things he'd overlooked. Remember things didn't go to plan.  There was the silencer for a start - it was allegedly in a cupboard for anyone to find. Also, why on earth would he want his relatives poking around in a house full of stuff which belonged to him?


Given the placement of the silencer when it was found, it doesn't look as if it was just 'put' in the cupboard. To place it there required some effort. He may have thought it wouldn't be found. He may have thought that if it was found, because of it's placement, it wouldn't be seen as having been part of a crime. He MAY -temporarily- have had some thoughts about retrieving it later to dispose of, but as so often happens after great efforts, he may have become drained of "try" and convinced himself that it wouldn't be found.

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Given the placement of the silencer when it was found, it doesn't look as if it was just 'put' in the cupboard. To place it there required some effort. He may have thought it wouldn't be found. He may have thought that if it was found, because of it's placement, it wouldn't be seen as having been part of a crime. He MAY -temporarily- have had some thoughts about retrieving it later to dispose of, but as so often happens after great efforts, he may have become drained of "try" and convinced himself that it wouldn't be found.

I don't believe any of that.  I don't think he would let them go through the house if there was anything at all to find. I just don't get why he would allow them to go into the house at all. They got the safe open and everything. They also removed guns.

If he was not guilty, I might think that he was sick of the thought of going in there and didn't care what the relatives did, but I don't get why he would let them in if he was guilty.

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I don't believe any of that.  I don't think he would let them go through the house if there was anything at all to find. I just don't get why he would allow them to go into the house at all. They got the safe open and everything. They also removed guns.

If he was not guilty, I might think that he was sick of the thought of going in there and didn't care what the relatives did, but I don't get why he would let them in if he was guilty.


So you don't think it might have gone through his head that any attempt he might make to keep them out may look like he had something to hide?

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So you don't think it might have gone through his head that any attempt he might make to keep them out may look like he had something to hide?

No. They weren't next of kin or anything. He could have just said he would sort things when he got back.

They already had suspicions pretty much the next day. Did he know that?

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No. They weren't next of kin or anything. He could have just said he would sort things when he got back.

They already had suspicions pretty much the next day. Did he know that?


He COULD have said anything. He wasn't responsible for what they might think but we mustn't assume their suspicions came from nowhere. They were probably a culmination of years of suspicion. Whilst Nevill and June, as his parents, may have found reasons to defend his absences/lack of interest, the wider family had no such allegiances.

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He COULD have said anything. He wasn't responsible for what they might think but we mustn't assume their suspicions came from nowhere. They were probably a culmination of years of suspicion. Whilst Nevill and June, as his parents, may have found reasons to defend his absences/lack of interest, the wider family had no such allegiances.

The point is that if he had any inkling that they had suspicions, why on earth would he give them access to the farm?

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The point is that if he had any inkling that they had suspicions, why on earth would he give them access to the farm?



Probably because, at that point, he believed he was between a rock and a hard place. Surely, an innocent man would have no reason to keep them out? Reverse psychology.

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Probably because, at that point, he believed he was between a rock and a hard place. Surely, an innocent man would have no reason to keep them out? Reverse psychology.

An innocent man could have plenty of reasons. He wanted to see what had happened for himself, he wanted it to be a shrine with nothing touched. He could have given any number of reasons.

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An innocent man could have plenty of reasons. He wanted to see what had happened for himself, he wanted it to be a shrine with nothing touched. He could have given any number of reasons.



But he didn't, and history can't be rewritten by making excuses for him.

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But he didn't, and history can't be rewritten by making excuses for him.

And I wonder why he didn't ...

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If only Jeremy had had an honest friend at the time to have given him guidance under the dreadful circumstances he was about to face. I've met families like his !!
 Nevill would have been aware but because he kept a lot to himself as many do none of the immediate family would have known or realised that there were people about who were ready to do you down at the first opportunity. He was a magistrate and had seen it all.

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If only Jeremy had had an honest friend at the time to have given him guidance under the dreadful circumstances he was about to face. I've met families like his !!
 Nevill would have been aware but because he kept a lot to himself as many do none of the immediate family would have known or realised that there were people about who were ready to do you down at the first opportunity. He was a magistrate and had seen it all.


Impressions of his character suggest that Jeremy didn't have friends back then. He's allegedly had some very good ones since he's been inside but appears to have dumped them when they were of no further use to him.