Disturbing Evidence, which confirms that cops handed back silencer to the family

[mike tesko]

The statement isn't genuine Mike for one reason of fact, in 1985 the statements were typed and typewriters used 'courier' font. The font on the statement you posted isn't courier - it looks more like Ariel Black or Aharoni (which isn't available on the forum to post a sample).

Stanley Brian JONES (Courier)
Stanley Brian JONES (Arial Black)

Sample of Aharoni below.

I disagree there are many examples in the case file in my possession which have been produced using the same, or similar fonts!

[mike tesko]

Well done Caroline, check also a statement from Anne, which was used from the same typewriter at Witham around the same time?  The letter spacing is different?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2396.0;attach=11118

Here’s another from the type writer at Witham at the same time?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1209.0;attach=6232

Then Compare the letter spacing

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9010.0;attach=50307

The Stan Jones composite statement dated the 8th September 1985, is genuine, it may not have been produced by Jones himself, in keeping with the instructions of Mr Adams, that witness statements could be and were tampered with. Stan Jones may have been privy to the creation of the said composite witness statement, or he may not have been, that is irrelevant, all that matters is that whoever produced this composite version of DS Jones witness statement was aware that Jones had seized and taken possession of the sound moderator / silencer from the scene on that first morning of the police investigation. Other evidence supports his presence there at the material time, his work roster confirms that he was on duty on the date his composite witness statement was created, he took possession of other exhibits from the scene that morning, exhibits SBJ/4, SBJ/3 and SBJ/2, it must follow, therefore, that he had also taken possession of an exhibit bearing the mark of SBJ/1..

For those of you who pretend to be blind or deaf and dumb, the sound moderator / silencer is referred to by either description at various sources of the Essex police file, its description is frequently interchangeable depending upon who and when 'it' is being referred to..

DS Jones, acted like a common criminal, he was at the heart of all the evidence which was dishonest in nature, and totally fabricated...

As for who typed out this composite version of DS 'Stan' Jones statement, dated, 8th September 1985, why are you people so sure that only he could have typed it out? How can you people be absolutely sure that it was even typed out by the person responsible for creating it, at Witham police station? Are you people really serious about what you are suggesting?

The statement is genuine, Jones took possession of four exhibits from the scene on the first morning of the police investigation! Press reports confirm that police recovered a sound moderator / silencer from the scene at the beginning of the investigation. Where is the exhibit label referred to as SBJ/1 bearing Stan Jones signature? He certainly took possession of exhibits SBJ/4, SBJ/3 and SBJ/2, from the scene on that first morning, so think long and hard before you start making up lies, claiming that this composite witness statement is not genuine...

[mike tesko]

In the obviously fake letter, Stan is supposed to refer to a Sound Moderator, yet in his court testimony it’s refered to as a Silencer, also the fact Anne and other family members refer to it as silencer?  Why the newer version Sound Moderator all of a sudden?


http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9010.0;attach=50307

Stan Jones Court Testimony

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=417.0;attach=1264

Peter Eaton statement
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1209.0;attach=6232


Anne’s testimony

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211.0;attach=492

It is not for me to have to explain why in the composite witness statement made in this version of Stan Jones witness statement, dated, 8th September 1985, that he refers to the sound moderator as opposed to the silencer, its still the same item, and you are simply being pedantic in your approach! Of course Stan Jones returned to the scene that morning from Jeremy's cottage, the COLP investigators confronted him about it in his interview! Of course Stan Jones seized exhibits from the scene at that time, its documented in Essex police property registers, he took possession of in total four different exhibits that morning, SBJ/4, SBJ/3, SBJ/2 and SBJ/1...

When COLP challenged Jones about his return to the farmhouse at about 11.30am on the first morning of the police investigation, he told them rather conveniently that he could not remember having returned to the crime scene, but rest assured that he did and he took possession of the four exhibits spoken about!

He definitely seized the sound moderator / silencer, on that occasion, that's for sure, and it had the exhibit mark of SBJ/1...

[mike tesko]

In the obviously fake letter, Stan is supposed to refer to a Sound Moderator, yet in his court testimony it’s refered to as a Silencer, also the fact Anne and other family members refer to it as silencer?  Why the newer version Sound Moderator all of a sudden?

Its not so obvious as you are suggesting, its a genuine composite version of a witness statement made in his name!

[mike tesko]

I will now seek to produce police documentation and copies of records proving that DS Jones did in fact return to the scene on that first morning and that he seized four exhibits at that time! I will show that when interviewed by the COLP investigators in 1991, that Jones said he could not remember going back to the scene from Jeremy's cottage, or what he had gone back for? I will seek to establish the existence of the four items of evidential value that he did recover from the scene on that first morning, items which bore the identifying marks of SBJ/4, SBJ/3, SBJ/2 and SBJ/1. I will make it my business to try and prove that on the 9th August 1985, DS Jones did take the silencer / sound moderator back to whf and leave it there, and that on that very same date, that both DS Jones, and DCI Jones had spoken to Jeremy about the involvement or possible use of the said sound moderator / silencer being on the gun from the evening before...

[mike tesko]

Lets start at the beginning...

Who was DS 'Stan' Jones?

[mike tesko]

Lets start at the beginning...

Who was DS 'Stan' Jones?

Well, aside from stating the obvious, he was first and foremost a Detective Sergeant with Essex police, stationed at Witham police station! In this particular matter, and from the first day of the police investigation into these deaths, until after the 6th September, 1985, when the nature of the investigation altered course, Stan Jones was under the influence and authority of his boss, none other that DCI 'Taff' Jones. Now, those that knew 'Taff' Jones, would know that he was a rather stubborn person but dedicated in his approach in all cases he investigated! 'Stan' Jones, couldn't get a word in edge-ways when he was working alongside 'Taff'. It would be fair to say that Stan knew when to keep his mouth shut when in the company of the DCI...

All of this changed, however, once the nature of the investigation changed course from 6th September, 1985, onward, with the appointment of DCS 'Mick' Ainsley to head the fresh investigation (Taff Jones, replacement). At this time, and onwards and upwards, Stan Jones, became a changed animal...

[mike tesko]

Well, aside from stating the obvious, he was first and foremost a Detective Sergeant with Essex police, stationed at Witham police station! In this particular matter, and from the first day of the police investigation into these deaths, until after the 6th September, 1985, when the nature of the investigation altered course, Stan Jones was under the influence and authority of his boss, none other that DCI 'Taff' Jones. Now, those that knew 'Taff' Jones, would know that he was a rather stubborn person but dedicated in his approach in all cases he investigated! 'Stan' Jones, couldn't get a word in edge-ways when he was working alongside 'Taff'. It would be fair to say that Stan knew when to keep his mouth shut when in the company of the DCI...

All of this changed, however, once the nature of the investigation changed course from 6th September, 1985, onward, with the appointment of DCS 'Mick' Ainsley to head the fresh investigation (Taff Jones, replacement). At this time, and onwards and upwards, Stan Jones, became a changed animal...

It is important for me to be able to try and paint a true picture of Stans relationship with Taff Jones, throughout the entire period 7th August 1985, until the 6th September 1985...

Arguably the most devastating information I can present to try and highlight this relationship should include the problems which Stan and DC Clark had caused as a result of telling Ann Eaton and the relatives on the first morning of the police investigation, that the bodies of June Bamber, and Sheila Caffell had been found both laid on top of the bed, with the rifle in between both bodies, and that Sheila had a bible on her chest!

In point of fact, the situation which followed, was neither avoidable, nor unavoidable, due to a breakdown in communication between senior officers at the scene, and as it were the departure from the scene by DC 'Mick' Clark, and 'Stan' Jones - one party did not say to the other, for example, 'don't speak to anyone about what you have seen, or what has taken place'!

In these circumstances, Clark and Jones, who had left the scene to go with Jeremy to his cottage to take a witness statement, were unaware that senior officers back at the scene, would be tampering with the bodies of victims, and in general staging the death scene of Sheila Caffell. Likewise, senior officers at the scene who had their own agenda, did not expect Clark and Jones to break their necks in telling Ann Eaton and the other relatives the whereabouts of the bodies of the aforementioned June and Sheila?

[mike tesko]

It may not surprise any of you to learn, that on that first occasion when Stan Jones, and Mick Clark had visited the main bedroom scene, how Jones had thought upon seeing Sheila's body on the bed, how peaceful she looked, as though she was merely sleeping! At least, thaat was Stan Jones memory of thsst sighting on that occasion...

[mike tesko]

It may not surprise any of you to learn, that on that first occasion when Stan Jones, and Mick Clark had visited the main bedroom scene, how Jones had thought upon seeing Sheila's body on the bed, how peaceful she looked, as though she was merely sleeping! At least, thaat was Stan Jones memory of thsst sighting on that occasion...

'Sheila looked so peaceful, as though she was merely, asleep'...

[mike tesko]

Little did Stan Jones, or Mick Clark realise that, in fact, at that stage Sheila was unconscious, but still barely alive!

[mike tesko]

Little did Stan Jones, or Mick Clark realise that, in fact, at that stage Sheila was unconscious, but still barely alive!

As told to Ann Eaton, and the other relatives all gathered at Jeremy's cottage, Sheila had what appeared to be a single bullet wound to her neck when they had seen Sheila's body laid on top of the bed! The second wound had not by that stage, yet been inflicted...

[mike tesko]

For those of you who pretend to be blind or deaf and dumb, the sound moderator / silencer is referred to by either description at various sources of the Essex police file, its description is frequently interchangeable depending upon who and when 'it' is being referred to..


I Agree, But, at a guess I would say the wording Sound Moderator started once it had been to Lab and refered to as such and not used in the earlier statements, then it becomes interchangeable like you said.  In court Stan is asked if he took possession of Something, he replies “I took possession of a silencer”. Not Sound Moderator?

Nevertheless, in several composite witness statements, made in connection with the examination of the silencer / sound moderator, t the lab' in Huntingdon, on the 13th August a the 30th August, 1985, the term that is used in these composit witness statement accounts, is that what they were dealing with, on these occasions, was 'A SOUND MODERATOR', thus lending credibility to the same term used in the composite witness statement, made in Stan Jones name, dated, the 8th September 1985! This consistency in all versions of composite witness statements made for a number of differently named witnesses, seems to have been the norm in the mind of whoever created all those composite witness statements..

Fletcher - 30th August 1985 - SOUND MODERATOR

Howard - 13th August 1985 - SOUND MODERATOR

Jones -8th September 1985 - SOUND MODERATOR..

[mike tesko]

There is little doubt in my mind, that this latest discovery, and by this I mean the 8th September 1985, composite witness statement made in Stan Jones name, is a genuine document, created in the same dishonest way that similar documents have been created and used to help convict innocent victims of crimes they have not and did not commit. In other instances these self same tactics have been used to present the prosecutions case in a better light, or to portray the actions of a prosecution witnesses behaviour more favourably, to the detriment of others (as took place in the Hillsboro' tragedy cover up, from April 15th, 1989, onward)...

These unsavoury tactics occurred in Bambers prosecution, and  in my own case!

[sami]

In the obviously fake letter, Stan is supposed to refer to a Sound Moderator, yet in his court testimony it’s refered to as a Silencer, also the fact Anne and other family members refer to it as silencer?  Why the newer version Sound Moderator all of a sudden?


http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9010.0;attach=50307

Stan Jones Court Testimony

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=417.0;attach=1264

Peter Eaton statement
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1209.0;attach=6232


Anne’s testimony

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211.0;attach=492

well spotted,justice