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[sherlock]

i disagree nether in essex or anywhere else in the britain was powdered  coke smoked. people only started smoking it after crack was introduced .if one wanted a high from smoking it would be cannabis or smack.imo

Sheila told Dr Ferguson she had been smoking it - it is in Dr Ferguson's witness statement - so of course it was being smoked in 1985 !

I personally witnessed it being smoked through bongs in Essex in 1985 and had detailed discussions with the people smoking it about their habit of smoking it - it is an incredibly expensive way of taking it.

I of course personally like a good  pipe myself - but not with cocaine in it 

[sami]

Sheila told Dr Ferguson she had been smoking it - it is in Dr Ferguson's witness statement - so of course it was being smoked in 1985 !

I personally witnessed it being smoked through bongs in Essex in 1985 and had detailed discussions with the people smoking it about their habit of smoking it - it is an incredibly expensive way of taking it.

I of course personally like a good  pipe myself - but not with cocaine in it 

once again i disagree but will have to accept a stalemate.now youve got the name,the pipe,have you also got dr watson

[sherlock]

so what if he did prior knowledge .charge him with whatever you think you can .doesnt alter much for jb

The only thing that has the slightest chance of ever setting Jeremy free is the truth,the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

If Jeremy had said a couple of things to Brett about killing his parents and Brett had thought Jeremy wasn't serious - then Brett would hardly be to blame for the actual murders ...

But what if Brett had killed someone before in a robbery like Susan Battersby says in her statement - and then he met a naive teenage Jeremy with rich parents - and then encouraged or persuaded Jeremy to do it so he could spend the inheritance money with Jeremy - that would make Brett a child killer.

If it ever turned out that Jeremy had been seriously manipulated or seriously threatened by an older criminal to commit the murders then it would create a very slight possibility for Jeremy to seek reconsideration of his whole life tarrif.

Only the truth has a chance of ever setting Jeremy Bamber free.

What is the truth in this case ?

[sami]

The only thing that has the slightest chance of ever setting Jeremy free is the truth,the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

If Jeremy had said a couple of things to Brett about killing his parents and Brett had thought Jeremy wasn't serious - then Brett would hardly be to blame for the actual murders ...

But what if Brett had killed someone before in a robbery like Susan Battersby says in her statement - and then he met a naive teenage Jeremy with rich parents - and then encouraged or persuaded Jeremy to do it so he could spend the inheritance money with Jeremy - that would make Brett a child killer.

If it ever turned out that Jeremy had been seriously manipulated or seriously threatened by an older criminal to commit the murders then it would create a very slight possibility for Jeremy to seek reconsideration of his whole life tarrif.

Only the truth has a chance of ever setting Jeremy Bamber free.

What is the truth in this case ?

so its best to bang him up with jb keep each other company

[sherlock]

once again i disagree but will have to accept a stalemate.now youve got the name,the pipe,have you also got dr watson

Just so you know Dr Watson suspected Freddie and Brett from the very start - they are the only 2 he has suspected - and believe me Dr Watson is an exceedingly excellent judge of character ...

So i wasn't too surprised to read in Susan Battersby's statements that Brett had been involved in a previous robbery/murder - nor was i surprised to read in Dr Ferguson's statement that Freddie gave cocaine to Sheila which she smoked 

[sherlock]

so its best to bang him up with jb keep each other company

If they were both responsible for the planning of the murders then that would be a very good idea ...

[sami]

Just so you know Dr Watson suspected Freddie and Brett from the very start - they are the only 2 he has suspected - and believe me Dr Watson is an exceedingly excellent judge of character ...

So i wasn't too surprised to read in Susan Battersby's statements that Brett had been involved in a previous robbery/murder - nor was i surprised to read in Dr Ferguson's statement that Freddie gave cocaine to Sheila which she smoked 

i meant dr watson the sidekick of holmes

[Jane]

The only thing that has the slightest chance of ever setting Jeremy free is the truth,the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

If Jeremy had said a couple of things to Brett about killing his parents and Brett had thought Jeremy wasn't serious - then Brett would hardly be to blame for the actual murders ...

But what if Brett had killed someone before in a robbery like Susan Battersby says in her statement - and then he met a naive teenage Jeremy with rich parents - and then encouraged or persuaded Jeremy to do it so he could spend the inheritance money with Jeremy - that would make Brett a child killer.

If it ever turned out that Jeremy had been seriously manipulated or seriously threatened by an older criminal to commit the murders then it would create a very slight possibility for Jeremy to seek reconsideration of his whole life tarrif.

Only the truth has a chance of ever setting Jeremy Bamber free.

What is the truth in this case ?

Y'know, it's been thrown at those of us who believe Jeremy is guilty, that it was never proved conclusively that he did it. It was enough that it was shown he COULD have done it, ie he had the means. It was certainly enough for supporters to say he was convicted unfairly. NOW though, it appears that supporters might be preparing to try to use exactly the same tactic. It seems that it really won't really matter that no one other than Jeremy committed the murders as long as it can be made to look as if it was possible that they may have. I imagine many might say he'd been released unfairly.

[sami]

iam sure that had either freddie or brett we involved jb would have implicated them long ago to save his own bacon.he didnt do this cause they have got nothing to do with the murders

[sherlock]

iam sure that had either freddie or brett we involved jb would have implicated them long ago to save his own bacon.he didnt do this cause they have got nothing to do with the murders

How could he implicate Brett without confessing himself ?

If he is guilty and ever decides to confess then he may well implicate Brett.

[sherlock]

Y'know, it's been thrown at those of us who believe Jeremy is guilty, that it was never proved conclusively that he did it. It was enough that it was shown he COULD have done it, ie he had the means. It was certainly enough for supporters to say he was convicted unfairly. NOW though, it appears that supporters might be preparing to try to use exactly the same tactic. It seems that it really won't really matter that no one other than Jeremy committed the murders as long as it can be made to look as if it was possible that they may have. I imagine many might say he'd been released unfairly.

If Brett was involved in the murders - then so was Jeremy ...

[sami]

How could he implicate Brett without confessing himself ?

If he is guilty and ever decides to confess then he may well implicate Brett.

how would he implicate himself by blaming brett

[Jane]

If Brett was involved in the murders - then so was Jeremy ...

Which leaves Jeremy in exactly the same position as he'd be if Julie was more involved than she claims, ie, exactly where he now is. He can't admit to others being involved without admitting his own involvement.

[lookout]

Nobody can tell me that if others had been implicated that JB would still be where he is after 32 years serving time to save others ? You must be joking ! Even if he was severely mentally impaired he'd have said something before now.
It's absolute rot to even suggest that it could have been him let alone those he'd befriended.

As " Taff " rightly said,it was a domestic ( shit happens ) and Sheila had a meltdown.

[Jane]

Nobody can tell me that if others had been implicated that JB would still be where he is after 32 years serving time to save others ? You must be joking ! Even if he was severely mentally impaired he'd have said something before now.
It's absolute rot to even suggest that it could have been him let alone those he'd befriended.

As " Taff " rightly said,it was a domestic ( shit happens ) and Sheila had a meltdown.

Well naturally, it's hypothetic but there's a certain irony in it.