Urgent need to get rifling voids of rifle barrel checked for blood and DNA...

[mike tesko]

The Keith Mallinsons Reports will all eventually be posted here!

[mike tesko]

The Keith Mallinsons Reports will all eventually be posted here!

Let us remind ourselves about the only tests which were carried out involving the inside lining of the anshuzt rifles barrel - it was a cloth pull through test (MDF/1) which he purportedly pulled through the entire length of the aforementioned barrel on the 12th September 1985. Afterwards, he examined the cloth for any presence of blood and found 'none'!

He relied on the absence of any blood found on this cloth to support his claim that the silencer was fitted to the guns barrel at the time of the shootings! (Because of the blood and paint associated with the silencer)..

Yet, the Mallinson theory if implemented could blow the prosecutions evidence out of existence and give it little or none at all, credibility

[mike tesko]

The possibility that hidden away and concealed in the voids of the rifling of the gun there exists victims blood and DNA is very high!

On occasions I had cause to discuss the Mallinson theory together with Glen Smith and Keith Mallinsons in 2003 / 2004, it became somewhat obvious to me at that time, on those occasions, that it could be a pivotal moment in the case...

What Mallinson proposed was that the voids of the rifling inside the lining of the barrel could be cleaned out using a special tool suitable for such a purpose, and the debris collected or gathered upon / in specially prepared paper free of potential contamination! The results of the cleansing process could then be checked for any blood group activity and DNA using the very latest techniques! Nobody has done this during the 32 years since the tragedy! I believe the reason the defence haven't yet got around to doing it, is due to cost! On the other hand, the prosecution haven't done it because they know the results have the potential to collapse the case and set Jeremy Bamber free!

[sami]

if they still have the rifle than yes i agree its a good idea as forensic science has improved so much that if there is blood or dna in the barrel it will be found.but how do we go about getting them to conduct the test

[David1819]

The Keith Mallinsons Reports will all eventually be posted here!

Mike you have already posted it on the forum before.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2515.msg77461.html#msg77461

[Steve_uk]

To summarize the pull-through technique was inadequate.

[ngb1066]

Mike you have already posted it on the forum before.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2515.msg77461.html#msg77461

If the last submissions to the CCRC had resulted in a referral to the Court of Appeal this was something Simon McKay intended to pursue.  The Mallinson material was referred to in the Judicial Review application, as an example of potential additional grounds of appeal. 

[David1819]

If the last submissions to the CCRC had resulted in a referral to the Court of Appeal this was something Simon McKay intended to pursue.  The Mallinson material was referred to in the Judicial Review application, as an example of potential additional grounds of appeal.

The CCRC pointed out that Dr Fowler did not explain the absence of blood in the barrel. Why could this not have been used against the CCRC's reasoning?

Also there is reason to believe Malcom Fletcher lacked any forensic firearms qualifications, but I doubt that could be used since the defence had every opportunity to question him about that at trial.

[mike tesko]

Let us remind ourselves about the only tests which were carried out involving the inside lining of the anshuzt rifles barrel - it was a cloth pull through test (MDF/1) which he purportedly pulled through the entire length of the aforementioned barrel on the 12th September 1985. Afterwards, he examined the cloth for any presence of blood and found 'none'!

He relied on the absence of any blood found on this cloth to support his claim that the silencer was fitted to the guns barrel at the time of the shootings! (Because of the blood and paint associated with the silencer)..

Yet, the Mallinson theory if implemented could blow the prosecutions evidence out of existence and give it little or none at all, credibility

Fletcher's 'Cloth pull through' (MDF/1) would not have reached the recessed voids of the rifling in the barrel, but would have glided over the miniscule entrance ways of the rifling lands and grooves inside the lining of the guns barrel! I believe that the said barrel had a total of eight lands and grooves , so there were ample locations throughout the entire length of the guns barrel in which a victims blood and DNA could easily find itself concealed, or be overlooked!

[lookout]

To summarize the pull-through technique was inadequate.

Right. As I'd previously stated ( and got shouted down ) mixed with any blood would have been other materials as I'd mentioned,such as skin/bone and other substances not seen with the naked eye.

[Jane]

Right. As I'd previously stated ( and got shouted down ) mixed with any blood would have been other materials as I'd mentioned,such as skin/bone and other substances not seen with the naked eye.

Certainly, IF it had been used.

[lookout]

Certainly, IF it had been used.

As a weapon to bash with.

[Caroline]

Right. As I'd previously stated ( and got shouted down ) mixed with any blood would have been other materials as I'd mentioned,such as skin/bone and other substances not seen with the naked eye.

Is so, such tissue would have been found on the outside of the rifle - none was reported.

[lookout]

Is so, such tissue would have been found on the outside of the rifle - none was reported.

A lot of other things went unreported also,so that's nothing to go by.

[mike tesko]

Is so, such tissue would have been found on the outside of the rifle - none was reported.

By the same token, you might also expect blood mixed with human tissue on the outside of the sound moderator, but alas none was found there either!