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« Reply #180 on: December 02, 2017, 01:43:PM »
There are a lot of innocent & unlucky people in prison. Bamber & now Steele & Whomes.
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« Reply #181 on: December 02, 2017, 02:09:PM »
Who were the canning town mob mentioned? I can't remember off the top of my head but think they were bigger time gangsters?
lucy years ago there was a firm called the canning town snipers one member of that firm david hunt now runs a deadly team of villains ,premier league i would say hunt owns the epping forest country club in chigwell.

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« Reply #182 on: December 02, 2017, 02:20:PM »
bernie is not to be trusted a rotten apple,when he left prison and arrived in essex he didnt have a pot to piss in .tucker gave him a job and made him head bouncer.barnie knew e's were being sold in the club tucker might even have given him an extra drink on top of his wages to keep out any dealers not connected to tucker.bernie also know that there have been several deaths from taking e's,the deaths are not reported the same way as leah's death as she was the daughter of a policeman.anywhere once it came on top bernie stuck the knife in to save his own hide by helping police and supplying an e' tablet for testing.

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« Reply #183 on: December 02, 2017, 02:25:PM »
adam tates girlfriend now says she did not warn steel about anything.but there is still the police statement of donna jagger ,rolf's girlfriend who said when craig dropped her off at the shopping centre he said iam going to look at a (landing site) with micky and the boys.
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« Reply #184 on: December 02, 2017, 02:45:PM »
ive met a lot of people who think this is a terrvle misscarage of justice ive met others who eqaully admant about there guilt.

what never seems to be asked though is even if they did it who paid them to i mean if they are guilty they dident just decide to do it themselves somone must of put them up to it.
When you say lot, I take it at some sort of gathering?

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« Reply #185 on: December 02, 2017, 08:59:PM »
just seen a interesting youtube clip where whomes brother is slyly having a go at the people making the films and books on the case ,he says its wrong.he also says in essex boys the truth his voice had been edited to make it look like he was admitting his brother is guilty which he says is not true ,he didnt make that statement.glad that people are seeing bernie for what he is.
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« Reply #186 on: December 03, 2017, 12:17:AM »
if i was on jury i dont think on the evdence presnted i would of found them guilty.

where did they cliam to be that night.
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« Reply #187 on: December 03, 2017, 12:34:AM »
For those who believe them innocent. Who are there alternative suspects and what evidence do they have?

i heard somthing about keneth noye being behind it.

but thats was just after noye had been convicted in the press were blaming him for more or less everything gangster related.

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« Reply #188 on: December 03, 2017, 08:27:AM »
i heard somthing about keneth noye being behind it.

but thats was just after noye had been convicted in the press were blaming him for more or less everything gangster related.

I've read about noyes possible involvement as well,
On the evidence presented, I would of gone not guilty as well, there's just not enough, all the men frequented the same area I don't think the mobile phone pings are enough to prove guilt, the mobiles could of gone off any tower

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« Reply #189 on: December 03, 2017, 08:50:AM »
I've read about noyes possible involvement as well,
On the evidence presented, I would of gone not guilty as well, there's just not enough, all the men frequented the same area I don't think the mobile phone pings are enough to prove guilt, the mobiles could of gone off any tower
Ive heard that as well Lucy, the accusation has come from a undercover cop John Fordham? He said Noye was behind the fatal drug consignment that killed Leah? It wasn't because dad-of-two Noye was upset about the death of an innocent girl young enough to be his daughter. The triple execution five years ago was simply carried out because, police believe, one of the gang had grassed on him.

This is what he has written

Before Noye became involved, the chain from the Netherlands to the UK streets was complex with the drugs often passing through up to 50 pairs of hands.

But the cunning villain cut that down to just five and saw his profits leap. Noye rented

a warehouse in London as a distribution centre for thugs like Tate and henchman Tony Tucker.

Tate and Tucker then sold the Ecstasy on to street pushers.

But the batch they supplied to the pusher operating in Raquel's club in Basildon, Essex, on the night Leah Betts celebrated her birthday was double strength - and it cost Leah her life.

Three weeks after the national outcry over Leah's death, Tate, Tucker and fellow-villain Craig Rolfe were lured to Whitehouse Farm near Rettendon, Essex, to inspect a landing site for a light plane due to bring in hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of Ecstasy.

Their "host" was another of Noye's old associates, 55-year-old Michael Steele.

He met the three in a pub and climbed into the back of the Range Rover with Tate, who was so unsuspecting he hadn't brought the 9mm pistol he normally carried.

But as the Range Rover turned into a lane off the A130, it had to stop at a closed gate where Steele's accomplice, Jack Whomes, was hiding.

Steele jumped out of the back door as Whomes ran towards the vehicle blasting away with an automatic shotgun.

Only Tate had time to put his hands up and crouch down - Tucker and Rolfe were killed instantly, sat bolt upright with blood all over their faces and chests.

After Whomes reloaded, Steele took the gun and shot each man behind their ears "just to make sure".

Steele and Whomes are now serving life. But police privately believe Noye - also doing life for Stephen Cameron's murder - commissioned the slaughter.

But why did he wipe out his friends?

Tate - like Noye - was not averse to giving information to the police to save his own skin.

In the heat that followed Leah's death, was Noye's involvement one of the tit-bits Tate offered the police?

An Essex drug insider says: "If it was, then Kenny would have gone f***ing bananas."


Strangely though, I read at School Noye was a bully to younger children and he was accused of being a grass himself in later life?

Noye played from both ends of the court. He used his contacts to get more work as a fixer and fence, but stayed ahead of the game by signing up as a police informer. He even joined the Freemasons to cement his police contacts.

Don’t know how true though Lucy, but it’s come from different people, Maybe Sami can add his thoughts on this?

Just watched Rise of the footsolider 2 yesterday, can’t seem to get 1 yet?  Really enjoyed it he looks a tough guy that Carlton Leach.  I don’t think Bamber would have lasted long in the drug world playing with those guys Lucy  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: ESSEX BOYS MURDERS
« Reply #190 on: December 03, 2017, 10:00:AM »
Ive heard that as well Lucy, the accusation has come from a undercover cop John Fordham? He said Noye was behind the fatal drug consignment that killed Leah? It wasn't because dad-of-two Noye was upset about the death of an innocent girl young enough to be his daughter. The triple execution five years ago was simply carried out because, police believe, one of the gang had grassed on him.

This is what he has written

Before Noye became involved, the chain from the Netherlands to the UK streets was complex with the drugs often passing through up to 50 pairs of hands.

But the cunning villain cut that down to just five and saw his profits leap. Noye rented

a warehouse in London as a distribution centre for thugs like Tate and henchman Tony Tucker.

Tate and Tucker then sold the Ecstasy on to street pushers.

But the batch they supplied to the pusher operating in Raquel's club in Basildon, Essex, on the night Leah Betts celebrated her birthday was double strength - and it cost Leah her life.

Three weeks after the national outcry over Leah's death, Tate, Tucker and fellow-villain Craig Rolfe were lured to Whitehouse Farm near Rettendon, Essex, to inspect a landing site for a light plane due to bring in hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of Ecstasy.

Their "host" was another of Noye's old associates, 55-year-old Michael Steele.

He met the three in a pub and climbed into the back of the Range Rover with Tate, who was so unsuspecting he hadn't brought the 9mm pistol he normally carried.

But as the Range Rover turned into a lane off the A130, it had to stop at a closed gate where Steele's accomplice, Jack Whomes, was hiding.

Steele jumped out of the back door as Whomes ran towards the vehicle blasting away with an automatic shotgun.

Only Tate had time to put his hands up and crouch down - Tucker and Rolfe were killed instantly, sat bolt upright with blood all over their faces and chests.

After Whomes reloaded, Steele took the gun and shot each man behind their ears "just to make sure".

Steele and Whomes are now serving life. But police privately believe Noye - also doing life for Stephen Cameron's murder - commissioned the slaughter.

But why did he wipe out his friends?

Tate - like Noye - was not averse to giving information to the police to save his own skin.

In the heat that followed Leah's death, was Noye's involvement one of the tit-bits Tate offered the police?

An Essex drug insider says: "If it was, then Kenny would have gone f***ing bananas."


Strangely though, I read at School Noye was a bully to younger children and he was accused of being a grass himself in later life?

Noye played from both ends of the court. He used his contacts to get more work as a fixer and fence, but stayed ahead of the game by signing up as a police informer. He even joined the Freemasons to cement his police contacts.

Don’t know how true though Lucy, but it’s come from different people, Maybe Sami can add his thoughts on this?

Just watched Rise of the footsolider 2 yesterday, can’t seem to get 1 yet?  Really enjoyed it he looks a tough guy that Carlton Leach.  I don’t think Bamber would have lasted long in the drug world playing with those guys Lucy  ;D ;D ;D

I think it was a commissioned hit, people who are high up don't tend to carry things out themselves as they don't want it coming back to them, I just don't believe Steele and whomes would of put their trust in Nicholls to keep quiet they don't come across as big time or nasty bullys in my opinion

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« Reply #191 on: December 03, 2017, 02:15:PM »
I've read about noyes possible involvement as well,
On the evidence presented, I would of gone not guilty as well, there's just not enough, all the men frequented the same area I don't think the mobile phone pings are enough to prove guilt, the mobiles could of gone off any tower
noye was in prison with tate.but i doubt he had anything to do with it.i do think noye had tates childhood friend johm marshall killed in se london.marshall was still good friends with tate and it is said he dealt in drugs( cannabis), but as a front his official job was car dealer .soon after cameron was stabbed to death by noye,the car a blue range rover which had been sold by marshall to noye disappeared and noye ordered the hit on marshall so he couldnt tell the police who he had sold the car to.google john marshall murder.its interesting no one has ever been charged with his murder

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« Reply #192 on: December 03, 2017, 02:17:PM »
noye was in prison with tate.but i doubt he had anything to do with it.i do think noye had tates childhood friend johm marshall killed in se london.marshall was still good friends with tate and it is said he dealt in drugs( cannabis), but as a front his official job was car dealer .soon after cameron was stabbed to death by noye,the car a blue range rover which had been sold by marshall to noye disappeared and noye ordered the hit on marshall so he couldnt tell the police who he had sold the car to.google john marshall murder.its interesting no one has ever been charged with his murder
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« Reply #193 on: December 03, 2017, 02:22:PM »
noye was in prison with tate.but i doubt he had anything to do with it.i do think noye had tates childhood friend johm marshall killed in se london.marshall was still good friends with tate and it is said he dealt in drugs( cannabis), but as a front his official job was car dealer .soon after cameron was stabbed to death by noye,the car a blue range rover which had been sold by marshall to noye disappeared and noye ordered the hit on marshall so he couldnt tell the police who he had sold the car to.google john marshall murder.its interesting no one has ever been charged with his murder
Tates brother does not believe that Steele was involved.

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« Reply #194 on: December 03, 2017, 02:29:PM »
Tates brother does not believe that Steele was involved.
is he the one who was convicted of supplying coke from a west london cab office.i think its him.thats interesting.i think many people are split,leach tucker's mate thinks the police have got right people