ESSEX BOYS MURDERS

[sami]

I don't like Mahoney at all,he seems to have too much to say for himself.

totally agree lookout.he's in it for the money he has 1 or 2 photos of himself with tate and tucker which he repeatedly shows around the internet fooling people into believing his was part of essex boys firm had he really been on the firm he would not be here now but with his mates 6ft under.a mother of a shooting victim that died accused him of making money from her son's death by writing stories on the matter,her son died ages ago but bernie cant leave it alone ang keeps writing bringing back painful memories for the mother

[sami]

Theres not three of you about is there

steady justice.

[lookout]

totally agree lookout.he's in it for the money he has 1 or 2 photos of himself with tate and tucker which he repeatedly shows around the internet fooling people into believing his was part of essex boys firm had he really been on the firm he would not be here now but with his mates 6ft under.a mother of a shooting victim that died accused him of making money from her son's death by writing stories on the matter,her son died ages ago but bernie cant leave it alone ang keeps writing bringing back painful memories for the mother

It's strange that by just looking at a person you can tell what they're like.I could read him like a book.
Horrible individual.

[sami]

It's strange that by just looking at a person you can tell what they're like.I could read him like a book.
Horrible individual.

yes thats true some people just have that look about them

[Roch]

In layman's terms - what's the difference between O'Mahoney and Courtney?  I always get them mixed up.

[sami]

In layman's terms - what's the difference between O'Mahoney and Courtney?  I always get them mixed up.

imo not much roch,both have worked with the police so can be called grasses.both tell tall stories.

[Roch]

imo not much roch,both have worked with the police so can be called grasses.both tell tall stories.

Sami, I get the feeling certain people are 'allowed' to have such careers - because they serve a purpose.

 

[sami]

Sami, I get the feeling certain people are 'allowed' to have such careers - because they serve a purpose.

yes that sounds right.what makes me mad is ive seen bernie interviewing old time villains like fraser and other's who hate grasses but he gets away with.the help he gave the police with the e tablet sample was done to save his arse from prsion.ive been bought up with the code that the people you (work) with criminal friends should never be betrayed .we choose to go down the route of villainy.if you cant do the time dont do the crime the old times screws used to say

[Roch]

yes that sounds right.what makes me mad is ive seen bernie interviewing old time villains like fraser and other's who hate grasses but he gets away with.the help he gave the police with the e tablet sample was done to save his arse from prsion.ive been bought up with the code that the people you (work) with criminal friends should never be betrayed .we choose to go down the route of villainy.if you cant do the time dont do the crime the old times screws used to say

His name seems a bit too prominent. Like he's got free range to pursue books, films, promotions etc.

I wonder whether he takes the approach 'dont let the facts get in the way of a good story'.

I dont know much about Whomes and Steel.  They certainly look the part.   

[sami]

His name seems a bit too prominent. Like he's got free range to pursue books, films, promotions etc.

I wonder whether he takes the approach 'dont let the facts get in the way of a good story'.

I dont know much about Whomes and Steel.  They certainly look the part.

)spot on roch,thats his approach alright.imo steel is ist division not premier league .very clever man.but there is a difference between what steel was importing 50kgs maybe 100kgs cannabis a trip and what the premier league villains import half a ton and above.whomes was a worker held a steady job

[David1819]

tate was also shot in the liver.so it could have gone any of 2 ways the gunman at the rear open door shoots craig than tate in liver and tucker in jaw ,or tucker in the jaw than tate in the live .we dont know for sure so its not worth arguing just take each others opinions.correct that tate got the headshot through rear door glass

The trajectory of the liver shot suggests that Pat leaning at an angle.

Gunman A shoots Rolfe and Tucker (Bang Bang)

Tate then leans away from Gunman A from hearing the shots.

Gunman A then aims towards Tate while Gunman B comes from behind the door. Gets shot twice whatever shot comes first. (Bang Bang)

[sami]

The trajectory of the liver shot suggests that Pat leaning at an angle.

Gunman A shoots Rolfe and Tucker (Bang Bang)

Tate then leans away from Gunman A from hearing the shots.

Gunman A then aims towards Tate while Gunman B comes from behind the door. Gets shot twice whatever shot comes first. (Bang Bang)

yes david i agree thats spot on

[sami]

tate;s son must be a man now ,i wonder if he has followed his dads footsteps .hope his mother has shown him the other side of life and kept him straight.theres no doubt in my mind that if the young tate has taken the route of villainy he will be waiting for the pair to be released

[sami]

I always found that a really bizarre thing to say, I just think if they were guilty they'd of admitted it as they would of been out in 15 years?

lucy another one of his hints was that he was in a hotel in rettendon less than a mile away from the murder scene ,he wrote it on his website when it was running.no one can verify this hint

[Lucy522]

Sami, I get the feeling certain people are 'allowed' to have such careers - because they serve a purpose.

I don't think your far wrong there roch