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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2017, 10:48:AM »
(11) - Terrorist assasssin:-

Still a posssibility that the IRA or the PLO had direct or indirect involvement in the murders...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2017, 10:53:AM »
(5) - Sheila Caffell:-

If his accomplice was his suister, it would have been financially beneficial for him to keep Sheila alive, rather than to shoot her, not once, but twice!...
Maybe Mike, she wanted to end her life anyway, maybe it was part of her plan to join her kids and parents in the after life?  Maybe she didn’t want the rifle in the mouth to inflict the fatal shot and it was agreed a shot to the throat?

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2017, 10:56:AM »
(5) - Sheila Caffell:-

If his accomplice was his suister, it would have been financially beneficial for him to keep Sheila alive, rather than to shoot her, not once, but twice!...
If anything Mike, I think Sheila was in such a vulnerable state she would have been, out of any of the others the possible one? 

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2017, 10:58:AM »
(5) - Sheila Caffell:-

If his accomplice was his suister, it would have been financially beneficial for him to keep Sheila alive, rather than to shoot her, not once, but twice!...

Why? Dead men tell no tales.
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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2017, 11:08:AM »
(11) - Terrorist assasssin:-

Still a posssibility that the IRA or the PLO had direct or indirect involvement in the murders...

That is a possibility Mike. And would explain why there was no evidence on Sheila.
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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2017, 11:22:AM »
i think de stefano is the highest living authority on the mi5 involvement

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2017, 12:43:PM »
There are hundreds of examples in the instant case, of 'actions and activities' which amount to 'malice aforethought', and 'dishonesty', in the effort to prosecute Jeremy Bamber, as the killer...
Hi Mike thanks for all your hard work and input, if we take stock and reaccess, coming to light now is the obvious hatred of his parents, he never had a brotherly love with Sheila all this confirmed by Brett, he hated the fact his mother was giving away money to Church to which he had no control, he had a greed and need for money and the fact he was going to be tied to farming.  Although none of these make Jeremy a murderer the Motive becomes a lot stronger and clearer.

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2017, 12:48:PM »
Hi Mike thanks for all your hard work and input, if we take stock and reaccess, coming to light now is the obvious hatred of his parents, he never had a brotherly love with Sheila all this confirmed by Brett, he hated the fact his mother was giving away money to Church to which he had no control, he had a greed and need for money and the fact he was going to be tied to farming.  Although none of these make Jeremy a murderer the Motive becomes a lot stronger and clearer.

A perfect summation, Justice.

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2017, 01:01:PM »
This should have all been proved " beyond reasonable doubt "--------------and it wasn't considering it was the worst case of mass murder in its time.

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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2017, 01:17:PM »
This should have all been proved " beyond reasonable doubt "--------------and it wasn't considering it was the worst case of mass murder in its time.

But for 10 persons it was. There's always going to be ONE difficult sod who'll dig their heals in for the sake of it. It doesn't mean they're right. It does mean they're difficult.

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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2017, 01:22:PM »
But for 10 persons it was. There's always going to be ONE difficult sod who'll dig their heals in for the sake of it. It doesn't mean they're right. It does mean they're difficult.
Quite true Jane, I was suprised when it was 10/2 jury vote for Arthur Collins threw that acid injuring 22 innocent people.  He’s on cctv doing it yet two voted I suppose to say it wasn’t intentional?  Hope he gets 30 years, the disfigurements he’s caused, they have to make an example of him, I wish I was the Judge.

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2017, 01:26:PM »
Each to their own thoughts and views.

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2017, 01:30:PM »
Each to their own thoughts and views.
He looks a nasty piece of work that Collins bloke Lookout.  I think them acid attacks need sorting out and stiff sentences  :(

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2017, 01:47:PM »
He looks a nasty piece of work that Collins bloke Lookout.  I think them acid attacks need sorting out and stiff sentences  :(






Yes,justice I can't say I see anything nice about him myself. A "wide boy" type who would lead a saint along the wrong road. An opportunist who saw an easy touch in JB.

Oh those acid attacks are horrendous-----so cowardly and evil to ruin a person's life forever. Horse-whipped ? Cat o' nine tails ?

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
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Yes,justice I can't say I see anything nice about him myself. A "wide boy" type who would lead a saint along the wrong road. An opportunist who saw an easy touch in JB.

Oh those acid attacks are horrendous-----so cowardly and evil to ruin a person's life forever. Horse-whipped ? Cat o' nine tails ?
Ha Ha, we have em both.  Your like me Lookout an eye for an eye  ;)