Aerial photo's taken of whf during flyover on 6th August 1985, Special Branch...

[mike tesko]

Brian Lees previous home address, at 62 Beeches RoadChelmsford, Essex, CM1 2RS, is about 22 miles from Pages Lane and whf ...

Wonder if Jeremy knew him?

[guest7363]

Oh it could be a man,as he was reporting from Afghanistan too------though women do that same job too.

I think it’s a man Lookout 

[Jane]

I think it’s a man Lookout 

Deffo a man

[mike tesko]

Alas, the susspect Brian Lee was arreste in Belfast at 1am on the 6th August 1985, but note the reference to Special Branch being notified back at HQSB...

[Caroline]

Deffo a man

[lookout]

Brian Lees previous home address, at 62 Beeches RoadChelmsford, Essex, CM1 2RS, is about 22 miles from Pages Lane and whf ...

Wonder if Jeremy knew him?

Could have been an undercover officer posing as an IRA man---------the same tactic which was used in the Essex drug murders where 2 undercover officers,posing as IRA men were used to track down a Michael Steele ,who was eventually caught and sent to Full Sutton.
Strange how a debt of £40,000 was mentioned.

[mike tesko]

Could have been an undercover officer posing as an IRA man---------the same tactic which was used in the Essex drug murders where 2 undercover officers,posing as IRA men were used to track down a Michael Steele ,who was eventually caught and sent to Full Sutton.
Strange how a debt of £40,000 was mentioned.

Its a bit disturbing to find that the IRA or drug barons may have been mingled in with the tragedy of whf, but nevertheless, its there in black and white, it explains why HQ Special Branch were involved in the wilfull destruction of exhibits in the instant case. I thought special Branch were suppose to deal with home security matters and the protection of the likes of the Royal Family, and the Prime Minister ( and me). In any event, I shall now be keeping an eye open for any more information of this nature in the remaining parts of the case file I have yet to peruse...

[lookout]

Essex police have to answer two other MOJ's over the drug murders Steele and Whomes who were convicted for the murders,but remain innocent because of the conduct of the police and the handling of supergrasses.
Both the above say that " the truth will out ". Their appeal in 2015 was rejected.2016 CCRC upheld decision

[guest7363]

Its a bit disturbing to find that the IRA or drug barons may have been mingled in with the tragedy of whf, but nevertheless, its there in black and white, it explains why HQ Special Branch were involved in the wilfull destruction of exhibits in the instant case. I thought special Branch were suppose to deal with home security matters and the protection of the likes of the Royal Family, and the Prime Minister ( and me). In any event, I shall now be keeping an eye open for any more information of this nature in the remaining parts of the case file I have yet to peruse...

Special Branch we’re involved in everything, they worked with the SAS in Ireland as well Mike, Paul Bruce (Nemesis files)  tells stories of this.  They turned a blind eye when it suited, but wouldn’t have backed up if it went pear shaped, you were on your own in other words.

It’s a great book to read Nemesis files, you can get it in paper back, will open your eyes.

[sami]

Essex police have to answer two other MOJ's over the drug murders Steele and Whomes who were convicted for the murders,but remain innocent because of the conduct of the police and the handling of supergrasses.
Both the above say that " the truth will out ". Their appeal in 2015 was rejected.2016 CCRC upheld decision

yes i remember the case well lookout.the case was very similar to jb's in there was no direct evidence against them,and supergrass darren could be seen as the same as julie mugford.but in that case what lots of people dont know is that the driver of the rangerover, rolf had dropped his girlfriend off and said buy a dress for tonight (as they were planing on going out that evening)his last words were just going to look at a landing site with  MICKY and the boys

[guest7363]

yes i remember the case well lookout.the case was very similar to jb's in there was no direct evidence against them,and supergrass darren could be seen as the same as julie mugford.but in that case what lots of people dont know is that the driver of the rangerover, rolf had dropped his girlfriend off and said buy a dress for tonight (as they were planing on going out that evening)his last words were just going to look at a landing site with  MICKY and the boys

Not read a lot about it Sami, just watched the film with Sean Bean I think was in it.  Might catch up on it sounds interesting?

[Adam]

Essex police have to answer two other MOJ's over the drug murders Steele and Whomes who were convicted for the murders,but remain innocent because of the conduct of the police and the handling of supergrasses.
Both the above say that " the truth will out ". Their appeal in 2015 was rejected.2016 CCRC upheld decision

There is a thread on this. I believe they are guilty but have not looked at the case in detail.

The Pat Tate story film is coming out soon. The trouble is Craig Fairbass is 10 years older than when he was in 'The last of the foot soldiers' & is supposed to now be playing a Pat Tate who is 10 years younger.

So Fairbass is trying to look 20 years younger than he is. Which for Fairbass won't happen.

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8097.msg383073.html#msg383073

[sami]

Not read a lot about it Sami, just watched the film with Sean Bean I think was in it.  Might catch up on it sounds interesting?

yes justice worth looking at, a friend had some dealings with them.but they were no big time drugbarons,compared to some criminals out there who can make someone disappear never to be seen again.  but a good story sells papers

[guest7363]

yes justice worth looking at, a friend had some dealings with them.but they were no big time drugbarons,compared to some criminals out there who can make someone disappear never to be seen again.  but a good story sells papers

Very dangerous game to get into, just had a friend who I played football with got 5 and half years, in with Vietnamese druggies, they were supplying up Glasgow and I think Blackburn,.  I was going to write to him in jail, i seen his daughter and she was going to get me his number.