Essex Police Interview, Brett Collins...

[mike tesko]

Oh, it must have been quite evident Jane, it’s a shame he plays the role of a loving son to his supporters and yet within the prison walls he possesses  a disturbingly hatred for his family, this is how psychopaths work Jane.

Jeremy is not a psychopath according to the pyschiatrists who have examined him whilst in prison...

He has only been wrongly dubbed 'a psychopath' because he has been convicted of the five murders, including the murder of his sister, which he could not and did not do...

Please open your mind to reality, cops didn't make the mistake of there being two bodies in the kitchen at the time of entry (7.35am, onwards), and only another three bodies found upstairs by 8.10am...

There has clearly been a massive deception, which Essex police in all its departments has refused to answer for...

Please, two bodies in the kitchen, tghe body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female, a murder, and a suicide by 7.45am - please stop trying to ignore the obvious facts since the claim that cops mistook Neville Bambers body for that of a female is sheer nonsense, how could Neville Bambers death have been described as a murderer, and a suicide prior to 8.10am?

Jeremy Bamber clearly did not, and could not have shot and killed his sister on the main bedroom floor by using the anshuzt rifle which WPC Julia Jeapes, and PC Brown had seen minutes before the raid team forced entry into thye farmhouse, resting against the inside of the box room window?

Please, stop ignoring the facts, there simply were two bodies in the kitchen upon entry, two bodies (not one), and only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am... 

[guest7363]

I don't give in to pity justice. Because there's no visible love between children and parents doesn't mean a thing. My late pa-in-law was a business type like Nevill,everything being about business and profit and he also appeared a very " stand-offish " man--------but underneath all that was a very generous and kind person. His attitude had no bearing on his son who I was married to.
Naturally this gives most the wrong impression as how would anyone know the real truth of what ,or how a person is behind closed doors ?
JB probably kicked off about the lack of freedom to explore the world outside of the farm and wouldn't have meant what he'd said about his father. We've ALL done,so he's no different nor are we. I've cursed my parents in the past and it's not until you see sense that you realise that what they did,or didn't allow was for your own good.

How many more holes have to be picked in people's visible hatred for this man ?
Yes,I hate,loathe and detest child murderers and if I had my way they wouldn't draw breath,but for God's sake get the conviction right in the first place.
Why do these forums exist if there's uncertainty ? There certainly wouldn't be such forums for those notorious monsters,so why for JB ?

I think you would have done him good Lookout, Ok he would have felt your rath, but you don’t bear grudges.

[Jane]

Jeremy is not a psychopath according to the pyschiatrists who have examined him whilst in prison...

He has only been wrongly dubbed 'a psychopath' because he has been convicted of the five murders, including the murder of his sister, which he could not and did not do...

Please open your mind to reality, cops didn't make the mistake of there being two bodies in the kitchen at the time of entry (7.35am, onwards), and only another three bodies found upstairs by 8.10am...

There has clearly been a massive deception, which Essex police in all its departments has refused to answer for...

Please, two bodies in the kitchen, tghe body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female, a murder, and a suicide by 7.45am - please stop trying to ignore the obvious facts since the claim that cops mistook Neville Bambers body for that of a female is sheer nonsense, how could Neville Bambers death have been described as a murderer, and a suicide prior to 8.10am?

Jeremy Bamber clearly did not, and could not have shot and killed his sister on the main bedroom floor by using the anshuzt rifle which WPC Julia Jeapes, and PC Brown had seen minutes before the raid team forced entry into thye farmhouse, resting against the inside of the box room window?

Please, stop ignoring the facts, there simply were two bodies in the kitchen upon entry, two bodies (not one), and only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am...

There are at least TWO psychiatrists who would disagree.

[Adam]

You didn’t do bad at all, I think yours is about £380 now?  Samuels has been going ages, a bad move when they merged with Ratner, remember him when he shot the business down.

Yeah I have seen similar ones now for about £380.00p. Replacing the batteries every 18 months costs about £30.00p. A watch is something worn & used every day. So good to shop around as a good one will be noticed providing it is not hidden beneath shirt sleeves.

It would be good if the CT could confirm how Jeremy obtained the two Cartier watches while in Australia or New Zealand.

[guest7363]

Jeremy is not a psychopath according to the pyschiatrists who have examined him whilst in prison...

He has only been wrongly dubbed 'a psychopath' because he has been convicted of the five murders, including the murder of his sister, which he could not and did not do...

Please open your mind to reality, cops didn't make the mistake of there being two bodies in the kitchen at the time of entry (7.35am, onwards), and only another three bodies found upstairs by 8.10am...

There has clearly been a massive deception, which Essex police in all its departments has refused to answer for...

Please, two bodies in the kitchen, tghe body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female, a murder, and a suicide by 7.45am - please stop trying to ignore the obvious facts since the claim that cops mistook Neville Bambers body for that of a female is sheer nonsense, how could Neville Bambers death have been described as a murderer, and a suicide prior to 8.10am?

Jeremy Bamber clearly did not, and could not have shot and killed his sister on the main bedroom floor by using the anshuzt rifle which WPC Julia Jeapes, and PC Brown had seen minutes before the raid team forced entry into thye farmhouse, resting against the inside of the box room window?

Please, stop ignoring the facts, there simply were two bodies in the kitchen upon entry, two bodies (not one), and only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am...

With the greatest respect Mike, I don’t think there is one person on here agrees with your theory or belief that the police shot Sheila twice with two different rifles, once in the kitchen and once in the bedroom, I can understand you making this claim because this is your last line of defence because you know Sheila could not and did not shoot herself, you also know that the silencer was used.  As regards Psychiatrist, I think there is only a person with psychopathic tendencies could stoop so low as to wipe all their family out in the evil callous way in which he did it, coupled with the fact I’ve exchanges words with a psychiatrist and a Chaplin who worked with Bamber at full Sutton I’m not going to argue with what they told me.

[Steve_uk]

With the greatest respect Mike, I don’t think there is one person on here agrees with your theory or belief that the police shot Sheila twice with two different rifles, once in the kitchen and once in the bedroom, I can understand you making this claim because this is your last line of defence because you know Sheila could not and did not shoot herself, you also know that the silencer was used.  As regards Psychiatrist, I think there is only a person with psychopathic tendencies could stoop so low as to wipe all their family out in the evil callous way in which he did it, coupled with the fact I’ve exchanges words with a psychiatrist and a Chaplin who worked with Bamber at full Sutton I’m not going to argue with what they told me.

Yes I agree with this justice. It would surely have come out by now by somebody inside that farm with a conscience had anything untoward occurred. I think the Defence would be better pursuing the undisclosed documents theory because after all this time there doesn't seem to be much left for them.

[guest7363]

Yes I agree with this justice. It would surely have come out by now by somebody inside that farm with a conscience had anything untoward occurred. I think the Defence would be better pursuing the undisclosed documents theory because after all this time there doesn't seem to be much left for them.

He Claims to have had all these tests, I think 27 or so tests, who the pluck do they think they are kidding, do they honestly think they fetch him in every now and again to see if he’s turned into one?  You either are or your not, he’s convinced in his mind he isn’t one, they don’t know they are one.  He’s not going to sit down and say he is one because in his world he isn’t.

[Steve_uk]

" Colin sending her round the bend ".I wonder what that's about ?
JB was never one for opening up about anything,but I bet he could tell a few hidden tales. Instead,he's stayed loyal to everyone it would seem-------pity there was never any reciprocation !

I think it must have been the affair he had, otherwise Colin endured far more than the average man in the street would have.

[Jane]

Yes I agree with this justice. It would surely have come out by now by somebody inside that farm with a conscience had anything untoward occurred. I think the Defence would be better pursuing the undisclosed documents theory because after all this time there doesn't seem to be much left for them.

Another point, Steve, is how, once the HUGE band of co-conspirators is no longer together to lend strength and support to each other, do they hold the terrible secret? It would only take a minor hiccough for that delicate boat to be rocked and the whole pack of cards to come tumbling down.

[Steve_uk]

I have the following observation to invite anybody or everybody to consider...

Killing your entire family, or lets say three generations of the same extended family in order to lay your hands on the entire estates of your parents, or adoptive parents, or whatever, would require more planning than what is suggested that Jeremy is responsible for. Since, it would be necessary for the killer (in this case Jeremy) to kill the five victims in such a wwway that it becam obvious to the police which victim had died first, then next, and then next and next, and so on...

It would require the killer to stage the death scenes in such a way that the police could tell, he had been shot first, to last, in order to guide the inheritance into the killers hands - no such preparation appears to have been undertaken by whoever shot and killed four of the victims, other then the police staging Sheila's death scene on the main bedroom floor in possession of the gun after 9.13am, on 7th Auguist 1985...

I don't think this is necessarily the case, because once all five family members were massacred the provision in Nevill's will would be invalidated, due to the fact that Sheila had died, so Jeremy would become the sole beneficiary whatever the members' opinions at the Henry Smith Trust were deemed to be.

[Caroline]

He Claims to have had all these tests, I think 27 or so tests, who the pluck do they think they are kidding, do they honestly think they fetch him in every now and again to see if he’s turned into one?  You either are or your not, he’s convinced in his mind he isn’t one, they don’t know they are one.  He’s not going to sit down and say he is one because in his world he isn’t.

Every prisoner gets those 'revues' and they are nothing to do with being assessed for psychopathy.

[Jane]

Every prisoner gets those 'revues' and they are nothing to do with being assessed for psychopathy.

In a prison probably bulging at the seams with them, what's one more? Why would it matter, and to whom?

[lookout]

He Claims to have had all these tests, I think 27 or so tests, who the pluck do they think they are kidding, do they honestly think they fetch him in every now and again to see if he’s turned into one?  You either are or your not, he’s convinced in his mind he isn’t one, they don’t know they are one.  He’s not going to sit down and say he is one because in his world he isn’t.

Quoting from someone who knows JB well " Please don't make comments about JB's state of mind,etc when you've no idea what he's like, "unquote .

[Jane]

Quoting from someone who knows JB well " Please don't make comments about JB's state of mind,etc when you've no idea what he's like, "unquote .

Who's been sneaking over to red, then?

[lookout]

Who's been sneaking over to red, then?

What if I have ? Have you got anything to say about that quote?