did nevile phone the police station from the office phone.

[David1819]

one what that happened and 2 it only happened because a policeman took the fith when being asked weather he had planted evidence.

its hardly unreasonable for a jury to think a policeman planted evidence if he wont even deny doing it.

Exactly. If I was on that Jury and going only on what was presented in-front of me. Id find him not guilty also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isDPecYKEjM

[Jane]

can you provide any example of a guilty man walking free from court after a smooth talking lawyer got him off.

because hundreds of examples of the reverse happening.

I'm inclined to believe that most of the guilty who walk free have had the advantage of counsel who knows how to sell themselves to a jury. Once they can do that, they can also sell whatever story they're telling.

[nugnug]

I'm inclined to believe that most of the guilty who walk free have had the advantage of counsel who knows how to sell themselves to a jury. Once they can do that, they can also sell whatever story they're telling.

but can any examples so far you haven't.

[Jane]

"Engaging personalities " ? All criminals ?

You appear to be making one and one add up to five.

[Jane]

but can any examples so far you haven't.

No, but I have enough working knowledge of human behaviour to know -and it makes no difference whether it's a barrister or a barman- that the first thing necessary for success is self presentation. Why do you think -in certain professions- behavioral psychologists are employed to arrange role plays for trainees?

[David1819]

No, but I have enough working knowledge of human behaviour to know -and it makes no difference whether it's a barrister or a barman- that the first thing necessary for success is self presentation. Why do you think -in certain professions- behavioral psychologists are employed to arrange role plays for trainees?

In other words, you are talking garbage.

[guest7363]

That happened in America.

And

[Caroline]

Exactly. If I was on that Jury and going only on what was presented in-front of me. Id find him not guilty also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isDPecYKEjM

This clearly demonstrates what a bad judge of character you are then.

[Steve_uk]

but can any examples so far you haven't.

As Jane said it's happening every day, not necessarily on murder charges but clever barristers getting their clients off on a technicality. Isn't there a guy who makes a living getting drink drivers off..http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/who-is-nick-freeman-loophole-13711566

I can also think of George Carman QC who got Ken Dodd off tax evasion and Peter Adamson off indecent assault, the case of Lisa and Michelle Taylor, where in my opinion justice wasn't served, then there was the case of Lavinia Woodford, who stabbed her boyfriend and still didn't land in jail.

[Jane]

As Jane said it's happening every day, not necessarily on murder charges but clever barristers getting their clients off on a technicality. Isn't there a guy who makes a living getting drink drivers off..http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/who-is-nick-freeman-loophole-13711566

I can also think of George Carman QC who got Ken Dodd off tax evasion and Peter Adamson off indecent assault, the case of Lisa and Michelle Taylor, where in my opinion justice wasn't served, then there was the case of Lavinia Woodford, who stabbed her boyfriend and still didn't land in jail.

Thanks for that, Steve. Whilst specifics aren't necessarily my forte, there's no aspect of human behaviour which hasn't been tried and replicated many times over.

[lookout]

As Jane said it's happening every day, not necessarily on murder charges but clever barristers getting their clients off on a technicality. Isn't there a guy who makes a living getting drink drivers off..http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/who-is-nick-freeman-loophole-13711566

I can also think of George Carman QC who got Ken Dodd off tax evasion and Peter Adamson off indecent assault, the case of Lisa and Michelle Taylor, where in my opinion justice wasn't served, then there was the case of Lavinia Woodford, who stabbed her boyfriend and still didn't land in jail.

All dependent on what it's worth to them-----much like the prosecution in this,the JB case !

[lookout]

The hail fellow well met brigade. Same ones would stab you in the back !

[nugnug]

As Jane said it's happening every day, not necessarily on murder charges but clever barristers getting their clients off on a technicality. Isn't there a guy who makes a living getting drink drivers off..http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/who-is-nick-freeman-loophole-13711566

I can also think of George Carman QC who got Ken Dodd off tax evasion and Peter Adamson off indecent assault, the case of Lisa and Michelle Taylor, where in my opinion justice wasn't served, then there was the case of Lavinia Woodford, who stabbed her boyfriend and still didn't land in jail.

that links relates to driving offences hardly the same thing.

[Jane]

that links relates to driving offences hardly the same thing.

It's not the crimes which are being questioned, Nugs. It's the behaviours employed that see the guilty walk free.

[lookout]

What exactly does this " behaviour " entail ?