The tinfoil in the safe

[Caroline]

Where is this photo with the third earring?

Apparently this is it (or one of them). No one has seen the one Jeremy claims exists.

[guest154]

Perhaps we should just ask Bamber. He seemed to know that Sheila lost an earring in the fight in the kitchen in 2014. How many earrings did Sheila actually wear? Two were found in her ears, then we have a purple stud (according to Jeremy) on the floor in the kitchen and one pendant earring stuck on her nightdress. That's now a total of four but then he also mentions that an undisclosed x-ray shows she was wearing 3 earrings. So, that's now five and as we can see, the origin of a missing earring comes from Bamber himself. Does Bamber know what went down in the kitchen because he was part of it?

This is why I found your mention of the earring 'interesting' Roch and why the origin of the information is important because if Jeremy is feeding it - how does that help show he's innocent, to me, that indicates the opposite?

Oh, you mean we knew more than they thought? 

Good job though Caroline - right from the horses mouth.

[Caroline]

Oh, you mean we knew more than they thought? 

Good job though Caroline - right from the horses mouth.

I knew the origin and I don't think that can be dismissed. To be honest, I never thought anything of it until Roch first mentioned it a  few weeks ago, That's why I thought it was 'interesting'.

[guest154]

I knew the origin and I don't think that can be dismissed. To be honest, I never thought anything of it until Roch first mentioned it a  few weeks ago, That's why I thought it was 'interesting'.

I think it will be though, by some.

It's quite alarming Bamber knows little details about the crime scene - things he shouldn't know. This isn't the first time he's been shown to do so.

Ironically I think if all those who had letters from Bamber, clubbed those letters together - then the supporters could shut the case.

Not surprisring that Roch didn't want to reveal the origin of this earring talk (if he even actually knows it's origin) - because it doesn't make Bamber look good.

[Caroline]

I think it will be though, by some.

It's quite alarming Bamber knows little details about the crime scene - things he shouldn't know. This isn't the first time he's been shown to do so.

Ironically I think if all those who had letters from Bamber, clubbed those letters together - then the supporters could shut the case.

Not surprisring that Roch didn't want to reveal the origin of this earring talk (if he even actually knows it's origin) - because it doesn't make Bamber look good.

This is why he hates the forum, he can't control what is being said. IF there is truth in what Roch said about other injuries, why does that mean Jeremy wasn't involved?

[David1819]

It's quite alarming Bamber knows little details about the crime scene - things he shouldn't know. This isn't the first time he's been shown to do so.

Really? 

He has spent the last 30 years pouring over case documents and case photos.

If he knew such details prior to his arrest, trial and conviction. Then that point would hold merit but clearly that is not the situation here.

[guest154]

Really? 

He has spent the last 30 years pouring over case documents and case photos.

If he knew such details prior to his arrest, trial and conviction. Then that point would hold merit but clearly that is not the situation here.

But what case document or photo shows an earring on the floor? Or money in his Dad's wallet? I've always said that he knows they've got the silencer evidence wrong which is why he tries to get his teams to concentrate on it.
He knows, because he was there.

If it's not the situation - what is the situation? What do you make of the earring comments he makes?

You've seen the clearer photos. Roch hasn't. Do you see a purple earring on the floor. If Bamber if the source of this to Roch  - then bamber has changed his story or Roch is just wrong. He has the wrong room.

[Caroline]

Really? 

He has spent the last 30 years pouring over case documents and case photos.

If he knew such details prior to his arrest, trial and conviction. Then that point would hold merit but clearly that is not the situation here.

Well he did - obviously. Small purple ball on the floor - the stem not even visible but he KNOWS it's an ear stud? 

[Roch]

Oh, you mean we knew more than they thought? 

Good job though Caroline - right from the horses mouth.

So there's something sinister in Jeremy Bamber examining crime scene photos for the purpose of his own defence - and passing on to another supporter that an earring component can be sighted?  He even adds the caveat it may not be linked to the incident. 

[Roch]

But what case document or photo shows an earring on the floor? Or money in his Dad's wallet? I've always said that he knows they've got the silencer evidence wrong which is why he tries to get his teams to concentrate on it.
He knows, because he was there.

If it's not the situation - what is the situation? What do you make of the earring comments he makes?

You've seen the clearer photos. Roch hasn't. Do you see a purple earring on the floor. If Bamber if the source of this to Roch  - then bamber has changed his story or Roch is just wrong. He has the wrong room.

What on earth are you on about?  Wrong room?  You seem to be jumping ahead of your self and getting mixed up in the process.  You're conflating something from 2012 with something now. 

[Roch]

But what case document or photo shows an earring on the floor? Or money in his Dad's wallet? I've always said that he knows they've got the silencer evidence wrong which is why he tries to get his teams to concentrate on it.
He knows, because he was there.

If it's not the situation - what is the situation? What do you make of the earring comments he makes?

You've seen the clearer photos. Roch hasn't. Do you see a purple earring on the floor. If Bamber if the source of this to Roch  - then bamber has changed his story or Roch is just wrong. He has the wrong room.

And further more - how does he know they have got the silencer wrong?  What do you mean by that?

[David1819]

But what case document or photo shows an earring on the floor?

I don't know. But what you are suggesting means Jeremy would bother take note of an earing on the floor while killing his family. Then bring it up some 30 years later.

I've always said that he knows they've got the silencer evidence wrong which is why he tries to get his teams to concentrate on it.
He knows, because he was there.

Or he knows because he wasn't there. 

If it's not the situation - what is the situation? What do you make of the earring comments he makes?

He has seen something in a photo and become delusionaly optimistic of what it might be. Or someone else has come up with the idea and told him.

Not everyone is good at studying minor details. People have said I have "eyes like eagle" so I guess not everyone can see the same thing?. Maybe some people can only look so hard at things and their imagination does the rest? That would explain allot of the ideas that come about on here.

[Caroline]

I don't know. But what you are suggesting means Jeremy would bother take note of an earing on the floor while killing his family. Then bring it up some 30 years later.

Or he knows because he wasn't there. 

He has seen something in a photo and become delusionaly optimistic of what it might be. Or someone else has come up with the idea and told him.

Not everyone is good at studying minor details. People have said I have "eyes like eagle" so I guess not everyone can see the same thing?. Maybe some people can only look so hard at things and their imagination does the rest? That would explain allot of the ideas that come about on here.

Once again, missed the point - no, not that he took an interest in an earring on the floor, but knows that it was ripped out during the fight because he was there. He has perhaps told different versions of the earring - "I can see one on the floor" "I can see one of Sheila"

Maybe there was a song in the charts at the time? 

[Kaldin]

Once again, missed the point - no, not that he took an interest in an earring on the floor, but knows that it was ripped out during the fight because he was there. He has perhaps told different versions of the earring - "I can see one on the floor" "I can see one of Sheila"

Maybe there was a song in the charts at the time? 

Eh? Jeremy was there and had a fight with Sheila whereby her earring got pulled out?

[guest2181]

Eh? Jeremy was there and had a fight with Sheila whereby her earring got pulled out?

I was a bit confused by that also.

I think that perhaps Caroline is alluding to a scenario where JB might only be able to have knowledge of certain details if he was actually present at WHF during the murders.