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Offline Kaldin

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Re: How it started
« Reply #195 on: October 21, 2017, 10:45:PM »
But according to the terms of Nevill's will, Jeremy would have to satisfy the trustees that he was capable of running the farm before he inherited. There's also the fact that on Nevill's death, everything he had would have been June's. There would have to have been another murder.

No, if he didn't stay in farming, half of Nevill's estate would go to Sheila (bar a house and personal stuff he left to June). Jeremy would still have got a fair amount.

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« Reply #196 on: October 21, 2017, 10:50:PM »
It doesn't mean that he should go and kill his family because the trustees state that he has to pull his socks up.On the contrary,it's meant as a word of advice and encouragement which is the way JB would have taken it.

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« Reply #197 on: October 21, 2017, 11:00:PM »
It doesn't mean that he should go and kill his family because the trustees state that he has to pull his socks up.On the contrary,it's meant as a word of advice and encouragement which is the way JB would have taken it.

And wouldn't he have loved that, doing a job he didn't want to do, anyway? He didn't want to farm, Lookout.

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Re: How it started
« Reply #198 on: October 21, 2017, 11:11:PM »
And wouldn't he have loved that, doing a job he didn't want to do, anyway? He didn't want to farm, Lookout.

zero evidence that he dident want to farm and even if he dident that's hardly evidence of guilt how many people do a job they don't really like very few of them kill to get out of it.

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« Reply #199 on: October 21, 2017, 11:16:PM »
zero evidence that he dident want to farm and even if he dident that's hardly evidence of guilt how many people do a job they don't really like very few of them kill to get out of it.

Actions speak louder than words here nugs -or should I say, as far a putting his nose to the farm grindstone goes, LACK of action. As for people doing jobs they don't like but not killing, there are few who stand to get a fortune by sticking with it.

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« Reply #200 on: October 21, 2017, 11:17:PM »
Actions speak louder than words here nugs -or should I say, as far a putting his nose to the farm grindstone goes, LACK of action. As for people doing jobs they don't like but not killing, there are few who stand to get a fortune by sticking with it.

It seems to me that he worked quite hard on the farm for quite long hours.

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« Reply #201 on: October 21, 2017, 11:48:PM »
It seems to me that he worked quite hard on the farm for quite long hours.
Yes that was after his two round the world trips, his bout at Little Chef and his stints at the Frog and Beans and Sloppy Joe's. It was the balance between working and social life which is often so difficult to juggle for the best of us that his parents objected to and which led in part to the tragedy as Jeremy, cognizant of his parents' wills felt bound to fulfil, though for a short time only.

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« Reply #202 on: October 22, 2017, 12:15:AM »
Yes that was after his two round the world trips, his bout at Little Chef and his stints at the Frog and Beans and Sloppy Joe's. It was the balance between working and social life which is often so difficult to juggle for the best of us that his parents objected to and which led in part to the tragedy as Jeremy, cognizant of his parents' wills felt bound to fulfil, though for a short time only.
I cannot see how any of the above has any bearing on whether he murdered.
Many young adults take gap years and travel, some work abroad for quite a few years. He was able to do it because his parents could afford it just as more parents can afford it these days. Many in their late teens early twenties also work at different jobs before settling down its part of growing up in the western world for those lucky enough to have the opportunity.

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« Reply #203 on: October 22, 2017, 12:53:AM »
I cannot see how any of the above has any bearing on whether he murdered.
Many young adults take gap years and travel, some work abroad for quite a few years. He was able to do it because his parents could afford it just as more parents can afford it these days. Many in their late teens early twenties also work at different jobs before settling down its part of growing up in the western world for those lucky enough to have the opportunity.
Yes and the raison d'ĂȘtre behind these gap years surely is that you sow your wild oats whilst you're young, get whatever it is you needed out of your system and then settle down to hard work and domestic bliss. We will never know for sure how Jeremy's life might have evolved had he not taken his short cut to madness, but the sad fact was the relationship he most wanted to succeed, namely that with Suzette, failed, leading to an uncertainty and crisis of confidence, exacerbated by his parents' lack of empathy and criticism. The tragedy was that they were moving in his direction, albeit slowly, the rumours that they were thinking of selling up may well have been true, but by that stage Jeremy had been inculcated by his idee fixe, and whatever his parents' plans for him was set on his murderous course.



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« Reply #204 on: October 22, 2017, 02:24:AM »
Yes and the raison d'ĂȘtre behind these gap years surely is that you sow your wild oats whilst you're young, get whatever it is you needed out of your system and then settle down to hard work and domestic bliss. We will never know for sure how Jeremy's life might have evolved had he not taken his short cut to madness, but the sad fact was the relationship he most wanted to succeed, namely that with Suzette, failed, leading to an uncertainty and crisis of confidence, exacerbated by his parents' lack of empathy and criticism. The tragedy was that they were moving in his direction, albeit slowly, the rumours that they were thinking of selling up may well have been true, but by that stage Jeremy had been inculcated by his idee fixe, and whatever his parents' plans for him was set on his murderous course.


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Re: How it started
« Reply #205 on: October 22, 2017, 08:22:AM »
Moderators can you do something about David's posters.

No one else posts them. They are goading & not contributing to the discussion.

Thank you.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #206 on: October 22, 2017, 09:24:AM »
Moderators can you do something about David's posters.

No one else posts them. They are goading & not contributing to the discussion.

Thank you.

Goading & not contributing to the discussion is what you do all the time. So why complain?

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« Reply #207 on: October 22, 2017, 09:31:AM »
Goading & not contributing to the discussion is what you do all the time. So why complain?

I discuss the case.

If Maggie doesn't like what I have posted she will be all over me on the main board.

Just posting pictures, cartoons, 'Gish gash' & pictures of Ricky Gervaise is just goading.

No one else does it. So I have asked the moderators to ensure this is never done in the future.
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: How it started
« Reply #208 on: October 22, 2017, 10:15:AM »
Yes that was after his two round the world trips, his bout at Little Chef and his stints at the Frog and Beans and Sloppy Joe's. It was the balance between working and social life which is often so difficult to juggle for the best of us that his parents objected to and which led in part to the tragedy as Jeremy, cognizant of his parents' wills felt bound to fulfil, though for a short time only.






What have trips got to do with anything ?

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Re: How it started
« Reply #209 on: October 22, 2017, 10:20:AM »





What have trips got to do with anything ?

They're part of Jeremy's "Get out of working on the farm. Free for as long as possible" card.