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Offline Kaldin

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Re: How it started
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2017, 01:44:PM »
But why telephone Jeremy at all, when he had been the source of grief for the preceding months (if not years) of Nevill's life?

Had he really been? Some people have said so, but everyone is wise after the event. There's no reason to think that they didn't have a normal father/son relationship.


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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2017, 01:45:PM »
If the call happened, it's important that Nevill didn't alert June. That would indicate either that Sheila was downstairs at the time, so he didn't want to leave her, or that he really didn't think that Sheila would do anything drastic so there was no need to wake June.

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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2017, 01:46:PM »
I don't think Nevill was marched upstairs, and I don't think that Sheila cut off the phone call - the phone line was still open. If it happened, I think that Sheila went upstairs and Nevill quickly put the phone on the side and went upstairs himself.

Under those circumstances, surely he'd have been more likely to have dropped the receiver which Jeremy might have heard/expressed concern,shock/given SOME other indication of what was happening.............................which is academic, because I don't believe the phone call happened.

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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2017, 01:47:PM »
Under those circumstances, surely he'd have been more likely to have dropped the receiver which Jeremy might have heard/expressed concern,shock/given SOME other indication of what was happening.............................which is academic, because I don't believe the phone call happened.

Not necessarily. If he just went straight from the kitchen and up the stairs Jeremy wouldn't have heard anything.

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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2017, 01:48:PM »
Without first hand knowledge of the family dynamics and relationships involved, then it's difficult to know whether Neville would choose to contact JB to come and solve the crisis.

It 'sounds' dubious to me though, I can't make much sense of it.

'Come & solve the crisis'. He did that alright & ended up in prison for 32 years.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2017, 01:50:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: How it started
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2017, 01:49:PM »
Is it significant that the phone receiver was placed on the left-hand side of the base?

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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2017, 01:50:PM »
Not necessarily. If he just went straight from the kitchen and up the stairs Jeremy wouldn't have heard anything.

Nothing is necessary, but where human activity under pressure is concerned it's down to a balance of probabilities.

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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 01:53:PM »
Is it significant that the phone receiver was placed on the left-hand side of the base?

If the receiver was placed on the work surface, unless nevill was at pains to prevent Jeremy from knowing what was happening -in which case, why bother to make the call- Jeremy would likely have heard it.

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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2017, 01:56:PM »
Is it significant that the phone receiver was placed on the left-hand side of the base?

In what sense? Are you thinking left/right handed user?

I'm not sure what you mean?

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Re: How it started
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2017, 02:07:PM »
Is it significant that the phone receiver was placed on the left-hand side of the base?






The bloodied fingerprints on the base were also on the left of the phone

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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2017, 02:08:PM »





The bloodied fingerprints on the base were also on the left of the phone

They aren't blood.

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Re: How it started
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2017, 02:08:PM »





The bloodied fingerprints on the base were also on the left of the phone
But then why no blood on the telephone lookout?

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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2017, 02:12:PM »
In what sense? Are you thinking left/right handed user?

I'm not sure what you mean?

Yes I am thinking about that Hartley.

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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2017, 02:14:PM »
Yes I am thinking about that Hartley.

There's a children's book under the phone also. I'm not sure I've noticed that before.  :-\

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Re: How it started
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2017, 02:19:PM »