Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings

[Adam]

I do not consider there to be conclusive forensic evidence showing that Sheila was not responsible.

I do not know whether Sheila changed and had a shower but that possibility cannot be ruled out.

Why would Sheila change into her nightdress after a shower ?   She was going to commit suicide, not go back to bed.

Well there is a mountain of evidence that it was not Sheila. I will re post.

[notsure]

It is certainly not an open and shut case, why it is still being strongly debated a third of a century later.  It depended upon largely circumstantial evidence, with no conclusive forensic evidence.  A number of people, not idiots, support JB's efforts to secure a further appeal.

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[Adam]

This is for NGB who has said 'I do not consider there to be conclusive forensic evidence showing that Sheila was not responsibe' -

Perfectly clean palm of hands on Sheila - Not disputed - COA

One blood mark on back of hand of Sheila - Not disputed - COA

Extremley low levels of lead found on hands on Sheila.  Not consistent with handling a rifle. Significantly higher traces expected - Not disputed - COA

Well manicured nails on Sheila - Not disputed - COA.

No broken nails - Not disputed COA.

Nails in tact - Not disputed - COA.

No marks or indentations on Sheila's fingers - Not disputed - COA.

No blood on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No dirt on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No powder on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

Sheila's time limits - Not disputed - POLICE, BAMBER.

No trace of any lead dust coating on Sheila - Not disputed - COA.

No traces of the lubricant from re loading twice - Not disputed - COA

Very clean feet - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA.

Feet free from significant blood staining - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA.

No debris such as sugar on feet - Not disputed - COA.

No foot injuries after bare footed aggressive movement around big house & brutal fight - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Only Sheila Caffell's blood on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No presence of firearm residue on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No trace of rifle oil on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No mention of nightdress damage from agressive movement and brutal kitchen fight - Not disputed - COA.

No facial injuries on Sheila - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Bamber/Sheila avoiding kitchen fight injuries - Not disputed - FORUM.

Nevill's massive height/weight advantage over Sheila - Not disputed - ACCEPTED FACT.

Impossibility of shower removing evidence off Sheila - Not disputed - SCIENTIFIC FACT.

Impossibility of Sheila showering after killing herself - Not disputed - SCIENTIFIC FACT.

Sheila being found bare footed in pyjamas suggesting she had just got out of bed - Not disputed - PHOTOS.

Blood in silencer - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

No blood in the rifle end - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

Sheila's legs pulled after second shot - Not disputed - COA.

Large scale multiple mental & physical effects of Haloperidol - Not disputed. - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

Sheila having Haloperidol in her body - Not disputed - COA.

Sheila's condition hours before the massacre - Not disputed. Bamber being a main witness - BAMBER & OTHER PEOPLE.

Sheila under sedation - Not disputed - COA.

Professor Herbert Leon Mcdonell - Not disputed after Bamber hired him - WILKES'S BOOK.

Nevill's horrific injuries - Not disputed - COURT OF APPEAL.

Sheila's time limits - Not disputed - POLICE STATEMENTS.

No valid Sheila scenario - Not disputed - OS & FORUM.

Ease for a man to lift & carry a woman - Not disputed. YOUTUBE VIDEO.

Crime scenes of 5 individuals - Not disputed - COA.

June & the twins not waking - Not disputed - COA.

Bible on Sheila's arm- Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Execution period 12am - 3am - Not disputed - BAMBER

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Not sure what else can be supplied.

[Steve_uk]

It is certainly not an open and shut case, why it is still being strongly debated a third of a century later.  It depended upon largely circumstantial evidence, with no conclusive forensic evidence.  A number of people, not idiots, support JB's efforts to secure a further appeal.

What forensic evidence would you like to see, wearing your Prosecution barrister's hat as it were..

[notsure]

I agree, Stephanie, good posts actually.  I also think this is why he goes through so many legal teams - it's easier to blame others for their failings and blame then because that is a good excuse and it's a good distraction from the actual fact that the reason his appeals and campaigns fail isn't due to the failures of others but because he is guilty.

If legal teams don’t have all the evidence they do what they can, are they then willing to fight to get hold of the money itheld evidence no because they can’t afford to. It only works if the accused has the same resourc s and money as the prosecutor and that just doesn’t happen

[lookout]

Lookout can you remember if EP released any or indeed all of Julie's witness statement something is telling me they held some back.

A lot of them were held back Susan. Probably those which would have been totally irrelevant to the prosecution. How biased in favour of the prosecution this case had been,with police working with forensics

[Adam]

What forensic evidence would you like to see, wearing your Prosecution barrister's hat as it were..

Good question.

It just needs one piece of evidence to show it wasn't Sheila. Obviously what the COA published prior to making their decision is not enough.

[Stephanie]

It is certainly not an open and shut case, why it is still being strongly debated a third of a century later.  It depended upon largely circumstantial evidence, with no conclusive forensic evidence.  A number of people, not idiots, support JB's efforts to secure a further appeal.

Why does Bamber not trust the CT

ANYONE can be conned ngb that includes you. No one is immune

The fact it is still being debated 30 plus years later means zero

I very much doubt it would have been if it weren't for the Internet

[lookout]

Good question.

It just needs one piece of evidence to show it wasn't Sheila. Obviously what the COA published prior to making their decision is not enough.

There's heaps of evidence to say that it was Sheila------------including the letter from DS Kennealley.

[ngb1066]

What forensic evidence would you like to see, wearing your Prosecution barrister's hat as it were..

It is not a question of what I would like to see, but what evidence actually exists.  Such forensic evidence as there is is not only suspect in various ways, but also is inconclusive.

[ngb1066]

Why would Sheila change into her nightdress after a shower ?   She was going to commit suicide, not go back to bed.

Well there is a mountain of evidence that it was not Sheila. I will re post.

I do not know, nor do I need to have a definitive view on this. 

There is no need to re-post everything you have posted before.

[ngb1066]

Why does Bamber not trust the CT

ANYONE can be conned ngb that includes you. No one is immune

The fact it is still being debated 30 plus years later means zero

I very much doubt it would have been if it weren't for the Internet

I think JB probably does trust the CT.

I agree anyone can be conned.  I have not been conned in this instance.  I have an inquiring and challenging approach to cases such as this.

The internet enables more people to become aware of potential MOJs.

[ngb1066]

This is for NGB who has said 'I do not consider there to be conclusive forensic evidence showing that Sheila was not responsibe' -

Perfectly clean palm of hands on Sheila - Not disputed - COA

One blood mark on back of hand of Sheila - Not disputed - COA

Extremley low levels of lead found on hands on Sheila.  Not consistent with handling a rifle. Significantly higher traces expected - Not disputed - COA

Well manicured nails on Sheila - Not disputed - COA.

No broken nails - Not disputed COA.

Nails in tact - Not disputed - COA.

No marks or indentations on Sheila's fingers - Not disputed - COA.

No blood on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No dirt on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No powder on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

Sheila's time limits - Not disputed - POLICE, BAMBER.

No trace of any lead dust coating on Sheila - Not disputed - COA.

No traces of the lubricant from re loading twice - Not disputed - COA

Very clean feet - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA.

Feet free from significant blood staining - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA.

No debris such as sugar on feet - Not disputed - COA.

No foot injuries after bare footed aggressive movement around big house & brutal fight - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Only Sheila Caffell's blood on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No presence of firearm residue on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No trace of rifle oil on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No mention of nightdress damage from agressive movement and brutal kitchen fight - Not disputed - COA.

No facial injuries on Sheila - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Bamber/Sheila avoiding kitchen fight injuries - Not disputed - FORUM.

Nevill's massive height/weight advantage over Sheila - Not disputed - ACCEPTED FACT.

Impossibility of shower removing evidence off Sheila - Not disputed - SCIENTIFIC FACT.

Impossibility of Sheila showering after killing herself - Not disputed - SCIENTIFIC FACT.

Sheila being found bare footed in pyjamas suggesting she had just got out of bed - Not disputed - PHOTOS.

Blood in silencer - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

No blood in the rifle end - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

Sheila's legs pulled after second shot - Not disputed - COA.

Large scale multiple mental & physical effects of Haloperidol - Not disputed. - NUMEROUS SOURCES.

Sheila having Haloperidol in her body - Not disputed - COA.

Sheila's condition hours before the massacre - Not disputed. Bamber being a main witness - BAMBER & OTHER PEOPLE.

Sheila under sedation - Not disputed - COA.

Professor Herbert Leon Mcdonell - Not disputed after Bamber hired him - WILKES'S BOOK.

Nevill's horrific injuries - Not disputed - COURT OF APPEAL.

Sheila's time limits - Not disputed - POLICE STATEMENTS.

No valid Sheila scenario - Not disputed - OS & FORUM.

Ease for a man to lift & carry a woman - Not disputed. YOUTUBE VIDEO.

Crime scenes of 5 individuals - Not disputed - COA.

June & the twins not waking - Not disputed - COA.

Bible on Sheila's arm- Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Execution period 12am - 3am - Not disputed - BAMBER

                                   -------------------

Not sure what else can be supplied.

None of this is conclusive forensic evidence of guilt.

[JackieD]

None of this is conclusive forensic evidence of guilt.

Of course it's not and he knows it

[Adam]

None of this is conclusive forensic evidence of guilt.

The judges in the 2002 Court of Appeal disagreed with you.

The judges even said the more they look at the case the more they believe the jury were right.