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« Reply #390 on: October 16, 2017, 01:06:PM »

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-19355106







That was disgusting because he was covering for the police.

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« Reply #391 on: October 16, 2017, 01:15:PM »
He mentioned old scars and the wound with the paster Maggie - there is no reason for him not to mention such cuts and every reason why he would as they would perhaps add support to her using the rifle.

Nobody can say he didn't mention wounds, unless they can produce the original pm report from the period when police were dealing with coroner's inquest.  Scribbled notes referring to a lack of contaminates are not necessarily in the context of wounds.  Perhaps the plaster was a contaminate and this is why he mentions it? 

He had every reason to omit the wounds to Sheila and June under Ainsley.  Ainsley cannot succeed if Vanezis doesn't omit the wounds.  I suspect Stan Jones persuaded Vanezis that no phone call took place between Nevill and Jeremy and that he (Vanezis) needed to assist police to catch the devious Bamber.

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« Reply #392 on: October 16, 2017, 01:25:PM »
Nobody can say he didn't mention wounds, unless they can produce the original pm report from the period when police were dealing with coroner's inquest.  Scribbled notes referring to a lack of contaminates are not necessarily in the context of wounds.  Perhaps the plaster was a contaminate and this is why he mentions it? 

He had every reason to omit the wounds to Sheila and June under Ainsley.  Ainsley cannot succeed if Vanezis doesn't omit the wounds.  I suspect Stan Jones persuaded Vanezis that no phone call took place between Nevill and Jeremy and that he (Vanezis) needed to assist police to catch the devious Bamber.

However, as this about what MIGHT have happened, perhaps he thought, and just because we don't KNOW it happened it's not to say it didn't happen, it IS all conjecture.

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« Reply #393 on: October 16, 2017, 02:33:PM »
However, as this about what MIGHT have happened, perhaps he thought, and just because we don't KNOW it happened it's not to say it didn't happen, it IS all conjecture.

Well we know that Jones pursued Vanezis, with an agenda.  And we know that Vanezis was initially unimpressed.  Why?

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« Reply #394 on: October 16, 2017, 02:36:PM »
Well we know that Jones pursued Vanezis, with an agenda.  And we know that Vanezis was initially unimpressed.  Why?

Could that not be reworded as "We think we know that............."?

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« Reply #395 on: October 16, 2017, 02:54:PM »
Could that not be reworded as "We think we know that............."?

No - because it happend.

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« Reply #396 on: October 16, 2017, 02:57:PM »
Nobody can say he didn't mention wounds, unless they can produce the original pm report from the period when police were dealing with coroner's inquest.  Scribbled notes referring to a lack of contaminates are not necessarily in the context of wounds.  Perhaps the plaster was a contaminate and this is why he mentions it? 

He had every reason to omit the wounds to Sheila and June under Ainsley.  Ainsley cannot succeed if Vanezis doesn't omit the wounds.  I suspect Stan Jones persuaded Vanezis that no phone call took place between Nevill and Jeremy and that he (Vanezis) needed to assist police to catch the devious Bamber.

Those are his notes from the original autopsy - not sure what you are talking about by 'lack of contaminates'? It has nothing to do with Ainsley - he was no where near the case when those notes were written. Whoever placed them in the archives has typed the wrong date.
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« Reply #397 on: October 16, 2017, 03:12:PM »
Those are his notes from the original autopsy - not sure what you are talking about by 'lack of contaminates'? It has nothing to do with Ainsley - he was no where near the case when those notes were written. Whoever placed them in the archives has typed the wrong date.

The notes regarding Sheila relate to contaminates. That is my point.

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« Reply #398 on: October 16, 2017, 03:18:PM »
The notes regarding Sheila relate to contaminates. That is my point.

That is misleading Roch as they detail her injuries and also old scars and the graze to he abdomen. They are his autopsy notes and are nothing to do with JUST contaminates.

Venezis has also confirmed that the gouges on Nevil's arm are NOT from fingernails, but are more inline with having been pistol whipped.
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« Reply #399 on: October 16, 2017, 03:18:PM »
Not to be forgotten is Bob Holland was disciplined for misleading the coroner .

Now why would he ?

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« Reply #400 on: October 16, 2017, 03:21:PM »
Not to be forgotten is Bob Holland was disciplined for misleading the coroner .

Now why would he ?

Not heard about that - you would have to explain more?
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« Reply #401 on: October 16, 2017, 03:27:PM »
Not heard about that - you would have to explain more?
Yes , MT as posted some paperwork up here about it before , maybe he could again .

If I remember correctly EP would not reveal the outcome .
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« Reply #402 on: October 16, 2017, 03:34:PM »
Yes , MT as posted some paperwork up here about it before , maybe he could again .

If I remember correctly EP would not reveal the outcome .

Is it here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1240.msg38881.html#msg38881
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« Reply #404 on: October 16, 2017, 03:37:PM »
No

My mistake - that was "Amy Holland"
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