Bullets fired and reloading

[JackieD]

I miss Patti what a lovely girl. You would have liked her Kaldin

[Kaldin]

I was trying to work out which bullets came from which magazine. There's no reason why there should ever have been ten bullets in the magazine. I think that one magazine-full accounted for four shots to Nevill in the bedroom, and maybe five shots to June. Then the killer ran out of bullets.

Another magazine accounted for the shots to the twins.

The third magazine could account for four shots to Nevill in the kitchen, two more to June in the bedroom, and two to Sheila.

This issue of the wandering cartridge does change things a bit, but I'll have to think about that one.

[guest2181]

Here is Mr Fletcher's statement.
 
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4019.0.html

It lists DRH/14 as being found on the stairs, but he didn't say which stairs. That same item was described by DC Hammersley as being found on the floor on the landing. They both list DRH/19, DRH/20, and DRH/41 as being found in the kitchen. I assume that Mr Fletcher simply followed what DC Hammersley had written down, although he did miss out a cartridge case in the children's bedroom.

I think I've been here before over the years, leading me to think that DRH14 was maybe the case transferred from the kitchen.

I must admit (bar a memory issue) the shell case on the kitchen stairs was new to me.

[susan]

I miss Patti what a lovely girl. You would have liked her Kaldin

Jackie Patti and hartley spent hours discussing the bullet casings and the location of them it was quite something I was totally lost.

[Kaldin]

I think I've been here before over the years, leading me to think that DRH14 was maybe the case transferred from the kitchen.

I must admit (bar a memory issue) the shell case on the kitchen stairs was new to me.

Yes. I do remember something about a bullet case moving around. I'll carry on tomorrow though.

Good night!

[guest2181]

Yes. I do remember something about a bullet case moving around. I'll carry on tomorrow though.

Good night!

Night

[lookout]

Sheila had a graze on her belly ? Enough to have a noticeable dressing on . Well me and my hawk-eyes saw what looked like padding on it.

[lookout]

What would cause a comparatively new rifle to jam ?

[Kaldin]

I think I've been here before over the years, leading me to think that DRH14 was maybe the case transferred from the kitchen.

I must admit (bar a memory issue) the shell case on the kitchen stairs was new to me.

If DRH/14 was originally in the kitchen, is there anything else to suggest that Nevill was shot on the main stairs?

[guest2181]

If DRH/14 was originally in the kitchen, is there anything else to suggest that Nevill was shot on the main stairs?

I didn't mean to single out DRH14. They actually say that shell was associated with June.

There is a lack of blood identified as belonging to Neville. There are drips in the bedroom, which 'could' in part belong to NB, drips on the landing outside the bedroom and a smear on the wallpaper outside the kitchen door (on the hall side).

[guest2181]

The shell on the kitchen stair is potentially dubious.

Which would just mean a shell had to have been transferred from the kitchen.

I think we're probably chasing our own tales, for all we know, the killer picked a case up from the kitchen and transferred it, either accidentally or otherwise.

[Kaldin]

I didn't mean to single out DRH14. They actually say that shell was associated with June.

There is a lack of blood identified as belonging to Neville. There are drips in the bedroom, which 'could' in part belong to NB, drips on the landing outside the bedroom and a smear on the wallpaper outside the kitchen door (on the hall side).

Associated with June? Do you have a link for that? It's not clear whereabouts on the landing the cartridge was found.

So is there nothing to suggest that Nevill was shot on the stairs? If not, it's possible that the killer didn't pursue Nevill, and that Nevill pursued the killer. That actually makes more sense to me because I'm sure the killer could have caught up with Nevill before he got to the kitchen, given his injuries.

[guest2181]

Associated with June? Do you have a link for that? It's not clear whereabouts on the landing the cartridge was found.

So is there nothing to suggest that Nevill was shot on the stairs? If not, it's possible that the killer didn't pursue Nevill, and that Nevill pursued the killer. That actually makes more sense to me because I'm sure the killer could have caught up with Nevill before he got to the kitchen, given his injuries.

It's noted on the diagram with the bullets shaded black, posted earlier in the thread.

[Roch]

Is it assumed that Nevill was definitely upstairs when the incident began?  What if he was downstairs, for example - asleep on a chair after a nightcap?

[guest2181]

It's noted on the diagram with the bullets shaded black, posted earlier in the thread.