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Re: Bullets fired and reloading
« Reply #360 on: October 15, 2017, 09:48:PM »
You'd have to be member of the red forum in order to see the images in the link you put up. They changed their settings at some point.

Feel free to post them here, it will be interesting to see if anyone else sees nail marks. If they don't I hope you'll be grumpy with them too.

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Re: Bullets fired and reloading
« Reply #361 on: October 15, 2017, 09:55:PM »
Feel free to post them here, it will be interesting to see if anyone else sees nail marks. If they don't I hope you'll be grumpy with them too.

I wasn't being grumpy - I just know your game.

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« Reply #362 on: October 15, 2017, 10:07:PM »
This isn't about being duped. You don't have to take Roch's opinion on it. You can see the photos for yourself on the red. And they've been posted on here but seem to have been removed. You commented on the photos did you not? You agreed that they now look to you like scratches and that you can't believe you hadn't noticed that before?
I am not taking Roch's opinion for it at all. It is my own opinion which I have made all on my own.  I do not intend to state on here what I have or have not seen but I certainly don't need to look at anything on the red forum to confirm my opinion. Thanks anyway..

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« Reply #363 on: October 15, 2017, 10:53:PM »
I am not taking Roch's opinion for it at all. It is my own opinion which I have made all on my own.  I do not intend to state on here what I have or have not seen but I certainly don't need to look at anything on the red forum to confirm my opinion. Thanks anyway..

Do you have an opinion on the photos that you're willing to share?


Edit : Nevermind, I managed to find your posts where you say you can see bruising and nail marks.

Imo, the blood could not stop running like that.  Sheila was a young woman her blood would be quite fluid. Not sure if  a side effect of Haldol is that it thinned the blood but either way it's highly unlikely Sheila's blood would be sticky enough to behave in that way. To me and because my pics on my tablet seem to be clearer than most, they're certainly clearer than on my laptop, the source of the blood is from the darker, thicker spots and those marks  appear to be cuts or tears made by sharp nails or something similar.


I can see bruising higher up her arm as though the arm has been grabbed and pulled or scraped as well as a few gouge marks that have bled, I think my pics on this  'dyslexic' tablet are really clear, not much use otherwise! :)

Nor me lookout.  I cannot agree because it makes no sense and I can see she has small wounds probably caused by something sharp like finger nails.

But as I have said before, my pics must be clearer than yours Adam

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« Reply #364 on: October 15, 2017, 11:10:PM »
Do you have an opinion on the photos that you're willing to share?


Edit : Nevermind, I managed to find your posts where you say you can see bruising and nail marks.

The only marks on her hand that look like scratches are the ones below. June does not appear to have long nails, so if they are nail marks they are self inflicted.

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« Reply #365 on: October 15, 2017, 11:16:PM »
The only marks on her hand that look like scratches are the ones below. June does not appear to have long nails, so if they are nail marks they are self inflicted.

I am guessing you don't believe the nail mark breaking news? Because I seem to remember you also don't believe any call from Neville so are willing to seperate from supporter group think.

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« Reply #366 on: October 15, 2017, 11:22:PM »
I am guessing you don't believe the nail mark breaking news? Because I seem to remember you also don't believe any call from Neville so are willing to seperate from supporter group think.

What's the "nail mark breaking news"?

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Re: Bullets fired and reloading
« Reply #367 on: October 15, 2017, 11:27:PM »
What's the "nail mark breaking news"?

This apparent new discovery that on clearer photos you can see gouges on Sheila that Roch has been posting about, dating back to July.
Maggie can see " those marks  appear to be cuts or tears made by sharp nails or something similar." "I can see bruising higher up her arm as though the arm has been grabbed and pulled or scraped as well as a few gouge marks that have bled," "small wounds probably caused by something sharp like finger nails."

Also, what do you make of there being an apparent original post mortem report for Sheila that has been edited.

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« Reply #368 on: October 15, 2017, 11:56:PM »
This apparent new discovery that on clearer photos you can see gouges on Sheila that Roch has been posting about, dating back to July.
Maggie can see " those marks  appear to be cuts or tears made by sharp nails or something similar." "I can see bruising higher up her arm as though the arm has been grabbed and pulled or scraped as well as a few gouge marks that have bled," "small wounds probably caused by something sharp like finger nails."

Also, what do you make of there being an apparent original post mortem report for Sheila that has been edited.

No, they are runnells of blood from the neck wound. The same blood that has run down the right hand side of her dress, also ended up on her right arm. The blood running down her dress and also on her arm, shows she was either sitting up or standing up when the shots were inflicted. The blood on her forearm shows that arm must have been out at an angle to some extent as if she was puling as trigger.

Ironically we have an outlandish theory that is actually based on evidence that indicates Sheila shot herself. But that evidence is then misinterpreted and twisted into something false to argue Sheila was responsible.

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Re: Bullets fired and reloading
« Reply #369 on: October 15, 2017, 11:59:PM »
I don't know whether Sheila's ear was split.  I've not heard that it was - but that XRay doesn't really show much regarding her ears anyway?

You said her earring was 'ripped out' - unless there was a witness to this, where on earth does this come from?
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Re: Bullets fired and reloading
« Reply #370 on: October 16, 2017, 12:02:AM »
This apparent new discovery that on clearer photos you can see gouges on Sheila that Roch has been posting about, dating back to July.
Maggie can see " those marks  appear to be cuts or tears made by sharp nails or something similar." "I can see bruising higher up her arm as though the arm has been grabbed and pulled or scraped as well as a few gouge marks that have bled," "small wounds probably caused by something sharp like finger nails."

Also, what do you make of there being an apparent original post mortem report for Sheila that has been edited.

It's an excuse for the FACT that Venezis doesn't mention any such marks on Sheila.
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Re: Bullets fired and reloading
« Reply #371 on: October 16, 2017, 01:25:AM »
It's an excuse for the FACT that Venezis doesn't mention any such marks on Sheila.

You forgot to mention the wounds he omitted regarding June.

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« Reply #372 on: October 16, 2017, 02:10:AM »
You forgot to mention the wounds he omitted regarding June.

They don't exist either.

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Re: Bullets fired and reloading
« Reply #373 on: October 16, 2017, 06:36:AM »
They don't exist either.

You couldn't adequately explain the horizontal shin marks which I pointed out to everyone. So I think you're being a bit blasé.  Regarding June's chin I won't bet money because Mat has pointed out it's distasteful in these circumstances. You should search my posts regarding this and work-out how I was able to provide descriptive details for a wound that apparently doesn't exist.

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Re: Bullets fired and reloading
« Reply #374 on: October 16, 2017, 06:42:AM »
It's an excuse for the FACT that Venezis doesn't mention any such marks on Sheila.

Where's his detailed report concurrent with the first investigation?  Not brief scribbled notes about contaminates.