If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?

[bob]

I didn't Bob and I think Jeremy even said that in the interview speaking to Eric Allison

Bob I think I am right in say you think JB is guilty do you support everything being released under pii so this could make everything much clearer and bring an end to this case

I'm about 75% on the guilty side Jackie - but I certainly agree all evidence should be released to both sides. I don't see how you can have a fair justice system otherwise.

[Jackiepreece]

Thanks Bob that's why this a farce most people would agree with everything being released even the people who think JB is guilty

If the ccrc appear to be playing games not releasing certain things under PII I can understand why JB would hold stuff back to appeal against his conviction again

It's ridiculous and all the time it's costing £40,000 to keep JB in prison every year

I will have to ask Ngb if he could give any idea how much an appeal would cost
£200,000 or more?

[ngb1066]

Thanks Bob that's why this a farce most people would agree with everything being released even the people who think JB is guilty

If the ccrc appear to be playing games not releasing certain things under PII I can understand why JB would hold stuff back to appeal against his conviction again

It's ridiculous and all the time it's costing £40,000 to keep JB in prison every year

I will have to ask Ngb if he could give any idea how much an appeal would cost
£200,000 or more?

It is difficult to say exactly how much an appeal would cost as it depends partly upon the cost of the preparation including obtaining experts' reports (such as the Peter Suthurst evidence) and partly the time taken in the Court of Appeal.  You are probably not far out in suggesting £200,000 as a reasonable guess of the total cost, but it could be a lot more than that.

[Jackiepreece]

Thankyou NGB1066 x

[ngb1066]

I think that Jeremy will keep going back to the ccrc with new evidence if he is innocent and the ccrc will keep looking stupid if they just keep drip feeding evidence held under PII

Lets get it over with for everyones sake release everything

I was reading a case yesterday I think someone has just been released miscarriage of justice after many years but he didnt use the ccrc he went another route that was successful I must ask ngb1066 he might know this other route

I am going to look for it now

It is interesting that the alternative route is one which was referred to by Bob Woffinden in his Guardian article attacking the record of the CCRC.  A link to the article was I think posted here yesterday.  It is in fact a very good article by Woffinden which makes his Daily Mail article and his Talk Radio comments all the more disappointing.  The alternative route for someone who has really powerful material which destroys an essential part of the prosecution case is to go straight to the DPP or CPS and disclose the material, rather than presenting the evidence to the CCRC.  If it is clear cut the DPP/CPS can then agree - and have done so on occasions - that they will not oppose an appeal against conviction and in that situation the case can be fast tracked to the Court of Appeal, with a bail application made immediately pending the hearing of the appeal.  I obviously do not know exactly what Jeremy's team now have in terms of firm grounds of appeal.  It appears that there is more work to be done in relation to the photographic negatives recently released by the CCRC.  All the indications are that Jeremy's team will continue in their attempts to persuade the CCRC to change their provisional decision and agree to refer the case to the Court of Appeal. If that fails they will have to consider the best way to proceed.