What clothes was Sheila wearing in the evening ...

[Kaldin]

Why are you answering for Jane again Caroline?

[Caroline]

Haha! That's rich coming from you. 

Not really - you're acting like a 3 year old. Anyone working on a farm all day would have a shower and you know it. You went on and on about the bible cover and ended up being wrong, the same with the rifle angles - now you're arguing over this. I was perfectly polite to you but if you want want to start that BS. then I give ans good as I get!

[Caroline]

Why are you answering for Jane again Caroline?

Why are you asking stupid questions Kaldin?

[Steve_uk]

Well it's not - he could have been in the habit of having a shower in the morning. Why are you so obsessed about it anyway?

It's just one more omission worth commenting on: psychologically he was attempting to deceive with his alibi, which he had detailed in his mind, but forgot the shower he should have had when he came home. It buttresses Julie's evidence that he hadn't been to bed that night.

[Caroline]

It's just one more omission worth commenting on: psychologically he was attempting to deceive with his alibi, which he had detailed in his mind, but forgot the shower he should have had when he came home. It buttresses Julie's evidence that he hadn't been to bed that night.

Thanks Steve - it's pretty bloody obvious what the point is if you have half a brain!

[Kaldin]

Not really - you're acting like a 3 year old. Anyone working on a farm all day would have a shower and you know it. You went on and on about the bible cover and ended up being wrong, the same with the rifle angles - now you're arguing over this. I was perfectly polite to you but if you want want to start that BS. then I give ans good as I get!

You're the one who's answering for other posters, and you don't even know who you're speaking to some of the time.

It's just nonsense to assume that Jeremy would have had a shower that time of night, but you keep on and on insisting that he must have had one. Don't bother to threaten me - I'm not a shrinking violet myself.

[Kaldin]

It's just one more omission worth commenting on: psychologically he was attempting to deceive with his alibi, which he had detailed in his mind, but forgot the shower he should have had when he came home. It buttresses Julie's evidence that he hadn't been to bed that night.

It's not an omission if he didn't have a shower! Who says he should have had one?

[Jane]

Well it's not - he could have been in the habit of having a shower in the morning. Why are you so obsessed about it anyway?

You're carrying on the debate. Your obsession must be as great -or MORE great- than anyone else's.

[Caroline]

You're the one who's answering for other posters, and you don't even know who you're speaking to some of the time.

It's just nonsense to assume that Jeremy would have had a shower that time of night, but you keep on and on insisting that he must have had one. Don't bother to threaten me - I'm not a shrinking violet myself.

No, you're another idiot! It's common sense that a farm worker would have a shower. You're no fence sitter!

[Kaldin]

No, you're another idiot! It's common sense that a farm worker would have a shower. You're no fence sitter!

Oh please - you know I'm not an idiot. 

Why does saying that Jeremy didn't necessarily have a shower mean I'm not a fence sitter? Are we judging his guilt or innocence on whether he showers at night or not now?

[Kaldin]

You're carrying on the debate. Your obsession must be as great -or MORE great- than anyone else's.

Are you speaking for yourself or for Caroline now? It's difficult to tell.

[lookout]

Blimey,I've only had a cup of tea and a sandwich and it's started------------again.

[maggie]

The author Carol Ann Lee interviewed Dr. Hugh Cameron Ferguson in 2013, where he explained that Sheila admitted to taking cannabis and cocaine "in a social context".

Sherlock suggested that Sheila had smoked cocaine, I haven't seen any evidence of this myself however I thought it worth pointing out that smoking cocaine is nothing like smoking cannabis.  It is not a social drug and users are likely to binge on it often in solitude, taking hit after hit as each one only lasts 30 minutes.  The highs are massively intense but short lived.... about 30 mins.  It is a killer causing strokes and heart attacks.  A thoroughly nasty drug which causes a hangover of rage and out of control behavour.

[Caroline]

Are you speaking for yourself or for Caroline now? It's difficult to tell.

Another one  who makes the discussion  about posters and not the post - usually the more obsessed members do that. It's a diversion from the topic, usually happens when you strike a chord! 

[Jane]

You're the one who's answering for other posters, and you don't even know who you're speaking to some of the time.

It's just nonsense to assume that Jeremy would have had a shower that time of night, but you keep on and on insisting that he must have had one. Don't bother to threaten me - I'm not a shrinking violet myself.

Just what IS the point of your presence here, on this thread or any other. You don't actually seem to care one way or the other about a shower -I believe you did something very similar re the bible cover- but I'm willing to bet that if we insisted that he'd have been so tired he'd gone to bed dirty, you'd have insisted he'd have showered before he went to bed.