Homicide and Suicide Associated With HALOPERIDOL

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http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/NLPs/RWhitakerAffidavit/Schulte.PDF

Sheila was on Haloperidol at the time of her death.

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High haloperidol concentrations in a traffic suicide.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3385388

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"There also is evidence that these psychiatric drugs can cause people to become violent. A Canadian research team that studied the effects of psychiatric drugs on prisoners found that "violent, aggressive incidents occurred significantly more frequently in inmates who were on psychotropic [psychiatric or mind-altering] medication than when these inmates were not...." Inmates on major tranquilizers were shown to be more than twice as violent as they were when not taking psychiatric drugs. The researchers attributed the marked increase in violence to akathisia."

http://www.stopshrinks.org/reading_room/drugs/dark_side_1.htm

[nugnug]

there is a certain anti depressant witch has caused people on occasions to commit murders but i don't know if it was around in those days.

[Alias]

there is a certain anti depressant witch has caused people on occasions to commit murders but i don't know if it was around in those days.

I am not sure I understand what you mean?
Sheila was on haloperidol when she died. I am shocked to find very many articles online that connect haloperidol to homicide and suicide! It is massive.

"We found that haloperidol and trifluoperazine were the most preferred antipsychotic drugs, particularly being the first drugs used during treatment (haloperidol, 71.4%; trifluoperazine, 10.2%) and the last antipsychotics used before the offence (haloperidol, 46.9%; trifluoperazine, 20.4%). In 38.8% of cases, schizophrenia was present in the first-degree relatives. We also found that 69.4% of victims were one of the family members."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20152293

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Andrea Yates was on Haloperidol - same drug as Sheila had in her.

 "Whatever possessed the 36-year-old mother to commit these unconscionable acts remains murky. Depression and postpartum syndrome topped early speculation, but there has been little discussion about the possible effects of the powerful mind-altering drugs she was taking. Although Texas District Judge Belinda Hill issued a gag order concerning the case, family members have released disturbing facts about Yates’ psychiatric treatment that specialists say may account for her state of mind at the time of the murders.
       During a two-year period, Yates was prescribed four extremely potent mind-altering drugs intended to help her through two episodes of severe depression that began after the birth of her fourth child. The first of these psychopharmacological cocktails included Haldol, an antipsychotic most often used to treat schizophrenia;"

http://www.whale.to/drugs/haldol2.html

"Breggin continues: “Haldol is a very blunting drug. It’s difficult to come to any definitive conclusions with so little data about her state of mind at the time. However, Haldol is a drug that produces what can only be referred to as a chemical lobotomy that tends to make a person more docile and robotic.” "

" As Vickery puts it, “Look, if I give you a loaded gun and for whatever reason it’s likely that you’re going to shoot someone, then I’m an accessory before the fact of murder. Shouldn’t the drug company that’s encouraging doctors to prescribe a drug and is aware that these drugs cause adverse reactions be held responsible? No one can believe that a mother would do such a thing. It’s too horrible. But the fact is these people get completely out of touch with reality because of these drugs. Unfortunately, in most of the cases that I get involved with, we never know if the people committing the violence knew what they were doing when they did it because they also killed themselves.” "

This article is very interesting, I think.

[Roch]

I've always found it difficult to accept the likelihood that Jeremy Bamber 'set his sister up'. 

Jeremy Bamber, in the mid 1980's, is unlikely to have known that there was any link with Halperidol and suicide / homicide. 

In the mid 1980's, what was the general public's awareness of infanticide, suicide and homicide linked to mothers facing a perceived threat of losing parental responsibility for their children?  I dont think it would have been a widely known phenomena at that time.  Since that time, possibly yes.  But at that time, no.

I've always felt that for Jeremy Bamber to have 'set his sister up' by way of playing upon the threat of her mental health, he would need to have possesed knowlege akin to that of a pioneering mental health professor.  That's hardly likely is it?

However, he may have witnessed some of Sheila's 'violent' outbursts.   

[Alias]

I've always found it difficult to accept the likelihood that Jeremy Bamber 'set his sister up'. 

Jeremy Bamber, in the mid 1980's, is unlikely to have known that there was any link with Halperidol and suicide / homicide. 

In the mid 1980's, what was the general public's awareness of infanticide, suicide and homicide linked to mothers facing a perceived threat of losing parental responsibility for their children?  I dont think it would have been a widely known phenomena at that time.  Since that time, possibly yes.  But at that time, no.

I've always felt that for Jeremy Bamber to have 'set his sister up' by way of playing upon the threat of her mental health, he would need to have possesed knowlege akin to that of a pioneering mental health professor.  That's hardly likely is it?

However, he may have witnessed some of Sheila's 'violent' outbursts.

Jeremy seems to me to have been slightly irritated by Sheila´s illness. I don´t think he took it seriously - or even knew how serious it was! He basically ignored it, and in that sense, what you say is reasonlable.
However, he did refer to her as "a nutter" to the police when they were outside the farm.

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I can´t get over that Andrea Yates and Sheila Caffell were on the same drug!

[chochokeira]

I can´t get over that Andrea Yates and Sheila Caffell were on the same drug!

Me neither. Well done for finding this, abs. +1

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I can´t get over that Andrea Yates and Sheila Caffell were on the same drug!

Me neither. Well done for finding this, abs. +1

Thank you, chocho. :-) one back.

[chochokeira]

I've always found it difficult to accept the likelihood that Jeremy Bamber 'set his sister up'. 

Jeremy Bamber, in the mid 1980's, is unlikely to have known that there was any link with Halperidol and suicide / homicide. 

In the mid 1980's, what was the general public's awareness of infanticide, suicide and homicide linked to mothers facing a perceived threat of losing parental responsibility for their children?  I dont think it would have been a widely known phenomena at that time.  Since that time, possibly yes.  But at that time, no.

I've always felt that for Jeremy Bamber to have 'set his sister up' by way of playing upon the threat of her mental health, he would need to have possesed knowlege akin to that of a pioneering mental health professor.  That's hardly likely is it?

However, he may have witnessed some of Sheila's 'violent' outbursts.

Jeremy seems to me to have been slightly irritated by Sheila´s illness. I don´t think he took it seriously - or even knew how serious it was! He basically ignored it, and in that sense, what you say is reasonlable.
However, he did refer to her as "a nutter" to the police when they were outside the farm.

I think Jeremy's lack of understanding and ambivalent attitude towards Sheila's illness was symptomatic of the 80s and a also a reflection of how young he was at that time. The 80s may have been just a quarter of a century ago, but it was a different world.

In the 80s, mentally ill people were routinely feared and stigmatised as 'nutters' on the one the one hand and yet their needs were also largely ignored. They were discharged into the community under the so called community care scheme which was seriously under-funded and which really amounted to little or no care or support. The whole issue of mental illness was viewed as something shameful, or even scandalous, something to be covered up. That may have been one reason why Nevill and June appear to have been in denial of the extent of Sheila's illness.

These days mentally ill people have specific rights and are treated with greater respect. Mental illness is now much more out in the open - and about time too. However, mental health has always been the 'poor boy' of the health service.

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Some more material on this: http://www.rense.com/general11/an.htm

"Hi Jeff,
 
I have been so busy doing interviews on this Houston case that someone had to send me your post on it for me to know about it. I thought you should know that Haldol is not an antidepressant as the article on your site states. It is known as an anti-psychotic drug - something you need AFTER the antidepressants produce the psychotic break!
 
The drugs Andrea Yates was switched to just on Monday was Effexor and Remeron - both antidepressants. They may have been giving her the Haldol with the antidepressants, but it obviously could not overcome the strong effect of two drugs together producing psychosis.
 
I always wonder how many children must seal my testimony about the dangers of these drugs with their own blood before the world opens its eyes. I have found that 90% of those moms who do this are on these meds.
 
Dr. Tracy "

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And a little more on Andrea Yates. She was actually in withdrawal process from Haloperidol when she committed the murders of her children.

http://www.alt2meds.com/medication-withdrawal/haloperidol

"Andrea Yates, a woman who lived in Texas with her five children was withdrawing from haloperidol when she drowned all five of her children. This is a very good example of why anyone going through haloperidol withdrawal should be closely monitored and under a doctor’s care. The withdrawal symptoms of a cold-turkey, too-rapid approach from haloperidol include nausea, anxiety, insomnia, restlessness, muscular reactions, and strange behavior.  The reaction to sudden haloperidol withdrawal can be life-threatening. People can become suicidal or extremely violent like Andrea Yates demonstrated to be true that day when she killed her five children in cold blood while she was withdrawing from haloperidol." 

[chochokeira]

And a little more on Andrea Yates. She was actually in withdrawal process from Haloperidol when she committed the murders of her children.

http://www.alt2meds.com/medication-withdrawal/haloperidol

"Andrea Yates, a woman who lived in Texas with her five children was withdrawing from haloperidol when she drowned all five of her children. This is a very good example of why anyone going through haloperidol withdrawal should be closely monitored and under a doctor’s care. The withdrawal symptoms of a cold-turkey, too-rapid approach from haloperidol include nausea, anxiety, insomnia, restlessness, muscular reactions, and strange behavior.  The reaction to sudden haloperidol withdrawal can be life-threatening. People can become suicidal or extremely violent like Andrea Yates demonstrated to be true that day when she killed her five children in cold blood while she was withdrawing from haloperidol."

Another excellent find, abs. I'm somehow not surprised about the effect of these drugs, I recall a friend of mine visiting me when she was on just antidepressants and the dreadful state she was in. My friend's husband had to bring her as she was incapable of making her own way anywhere. I've known her all of my life yet I hardly recognised her. She spoke as a child does, not just In the content of her speech but the sound of her voice. My friend wanted to go for a walk in the snow and when we did so, took off her shoes and socks and walked along in her bare feet, she simply did not register the cold. Isn't it lovely, she said to me, as her feet turned blue with cold.