Where did the allegations in the Mckensie report originate; Jeremy Bamber?

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Not necessarily

You mean yes.

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im wondering weather the ap allegation orginally comes from somwhere else.

i mean i dont think exactly palls some of the other cousens.

ap would of been posbly suggested becouse he had a conection to whf.

and he used to somtimes keep his guns there.

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It goes to show just how easy it is to blame someone because of their movements prior to a " happening "!
Which goes for JB himself. Supposition ?

[Stephanie]

He slipped up: was caught in the lie..

Like he slipped up in 1991 by accusing AP of being the murderer 

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=4209.0 (last page of his letter to Mike)

Meant to point out here that Bamber blatantly lies to Mike in his letter about the amount of money stolen from the Caravan burglary.

It was £980 (Source:police interviews) so 'Woody' wasn't far off at all when he said £1000

Also during police interview Bamber even remembers details regarding amounts of money taken for caravan rentals, so it's clear he has a good recollection when it suits him - this is also when he says to the police:

"I KNEW I WOULD BE NUMBER ONE SUSPECT BUT THEY COULDN'T PROVE IT"

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1144.0.html

[Stephanie]

Meant to point out here that Bamber blatantly lies to Mike in his letter about the amount of money stolen from the Caravan burglary.

It was £980 (Source:police interviews) so 'Woody' wasn't far off at all when he said £1000

Also during police interview Bamber even remembers details regarding amounts of money taken for caravan rentals, so it's clear he has a good recollection when it suits him - this is also when he says to the police:

"I KNEW I WOULD BE NUMBER ONE SUSPECT BUT THEY COULDN'T PROVE IT"

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1144.0.html

119. In about March 1985, in the context of a discussion about the security at the Osea Road caravan site, the appellant told his uncle Robert Boutflour, "… I could kill anybody … I could easily kill my parents".

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     ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED-------------said Sheila,so NOBODY was safe !!

[Jane]

     ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED-------------said Sheila,so NOBODY was safe !!

The above is only a theory. Jeremy's statement was a specific.

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The above is only a theory. Jeremy's statement was a specific.

Theory ? Hadn't it been said to BW who then told AE ? However,the theory worked,didn't it ?

[Jane]

Theory ? Hadn't it been said to BW who then told AE ? However,the theory worked,didn't it ?

Why would saying it to anyone make it more than a theory? Supposing the theory of evolution had never been spoken about? The more I think about those words, the more convinced I am that they weren't the words of someone who had killing in mind. They sound more like someone who was thoroughly fed up. Maybe, just MAYBE, she was fed up with having June's thoughts of how she should live her life rammed down her throat. MAYBE June had bought BW into the conversation and the pair of them had been having a go at her. We don't know the full story, ie what led up to the statement OR what were June and BW's reaction to it.

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Why would saying it to anyone make it more than a theory? Supposing the theory of evolution had never been spoken about? The more I think about those words, the more convinced I am that they weren't the words of someone who had killing in mind. They sound more like someone who was thoroughly fed up. Maybe, just MAYBE, she was fed up with having June's thoughts of how she should live her life rammed down her throat. MAYBE June had bought BW into the conversation and the pair of them had been having a go at her. We don't know the full story, ie what led up to the statement OR what were June and BW's reaction to it.

Because it would make it a fact as opposed to a theory.

[Jane]

Because it would make it a fact as opposed to a theory.

Of course it wouldn't! Any more than does my telling you that I have a theory that BW was responsible for the murders because Nevill wouldn't divorce June and marry her.

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Of course it wouldn't! Any more than does my telling you that I have a theory that BW was responsible for the murders because Nevill wouldn't divorce June and marry her.

Hadn't Sheila told Dr Ferguson of her " theories " about killing ? We've yet to see that paperwork.

[Jane]

Hadn't Sheila told Dr Ferguson of her " theories " about killing ? We've yet to see that paperwork.

In 1983 she spoke of her fears. Saying she was afraid that she might kill them or they, her? -what she didn't say was that unless someone stopped her she would- Dr Ferguson says she didn't mention her children or family when she was admitted in 1985.

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In 1983 she spoke of her fears. Saying she was afraid that she might kill them or they, her? -what she didn't say was that unless someone stopped her she would- Dr Ferguson says she didn't mention her children or family when she was admitted in 1985.

Because Sheila had been spaced out with confusion,etc she probably didn't realise that she had a family.

[Jane]

Because Sheila had been spaced out with confusion,etc she probably didn't realise that she had a family.

Another sweeping statement. Dr Ferguson didn't say she never mentioned them. Such WOULD have been curious. She told Ann that she missed then. Difficult to do if she didn't realize she had children, don't you think? Besides which, you've recently said that you don't believe her to have been mentally ill.