Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:

[Kaldin]

She told 5 people what she knew prior to the police. Starting from the 27th August while still with Bamber. So yes, she was building up to telling the police. With or without Bamber.

The spilt up was inevitable after the massacre. Bamber wanted to be a play boy & Julie couldn't come to terms with what she realished Bamber had done. Besides which Bamber said the relationship had been coming to a close for 6 months anyway.

Bamber only whisked Julie over to WHF on the 7th August so he could try & attempt to control & sweet talk her until he felt the heat was off him.

People claim Julie would have kept quiet if Bamber had put a ring on her finger. But he didn't, did he ?

She wasn't building up to telling the police when she told Susan, otherwise she wouldn't have said that what she did. Who were the other four people?

Are you saying that Julie tried to come to terms with what Jeremy had done for at least 20 days? I suppose he would have been rich if he'd got away with it, so do you think that influenced her? Are you also saying that she would never have told anyone if he'd promised to marry her?

Does any of that make her sound like a decent person?

[Kaldin]

There was also that business when she went to see the bodies. Now at that time Jeremy had already allegedly told her that he was responsible for the murders, and that McDonald had actually carried them out. She went to see the bodies in order to see if they had suffered apparently. She wanted to go and see them a second time, but she thought questions would be asked that she couldn't answer. Why couldn't she answer them? Because she was covering up for Jeremy.

[Kaldin]

Oh, and if the relationship had been coming to a close for 6 months, why would Jeremy have confided in her, and why would he keep wanting to see her?

[Stephanie]

Oh, and if the relationship had been coming to a close for 6 months, why would Jeremy have confided in her, and why would he keep wanting to see her?

Power & control

[Adam]

She wasn't building up to telling the police when she told Susan, otherwise she wouldn't have said that what she did. Who were the other four people?

Are you saying that Julie tried to come to terms with what Jeremy had done for at least 20 days? I suppose he would have been rich if he'd got away with it, so do you think that influenced her? Are you also saying that she would never have told anyone if he'd promised to marry her?

Does any of that make her sound like a decent person?

Sorry I forgot Bamber is a decent person. But very unlucky.

Other people claim Julie would have kept quiet if Bamber had put a ring on her finger. Which I don't agree with. Anyway he didn't.

Anyway, you've got a big issue with Julie telling 5 people while still with Bamber. Then telling the police a few days later, completing a 34 page WS, testifying & never re tracting a word.

That happened & can't be changed. The police, DPP, jury & appeal courts don't believe Julie doing this means anything. And neither do the guilters.

[Kaldin]

Sorry I forgot Bamber is a decent person. But very unlucky.

Other people claim Julie would have kept quiet if Bamber had put a ring on her finger. Which I don't agree with. Anyway he didn't.

Anyway, you've got a big issue with Julie telling 5 people while still with Bamber. Then telling the police a few days later, completing a 34 page WS, testifying & never re tracting a word.

That happened & can't be changed. The police, DPP, jury & appeal courts don't believe this means anything. And neither do the guilters.

You didn't answer my question - who are the other four people she told?

Then there's the issue of him giving her money to compensate for her having time off work after the murders. I'm not sure what work she was doing at the time, but she chose to have time off and spend all her time with a person who was responsible for the vicious murder of five people? That's pretty bizarre isn't it?

[Stephanie]

She wasn't building up to telling the police when she told Susan, otherwise she wouldn't have said that what she did. Who were the other four people?

Are you saying that Julie tried to come to terms with what Jeremy had done for at least 20 days? I suppose he would have been rich if he'd got away with it, so do you think that influenced her? Are you also saying that she would never have told anyone if he'd promised to marry her?

Does any of that make her sound like a decent person?

There was also that business when she went to see the bodies. Now at that time Jeremy had already allegedly told her that he was responsible for the murders, and that McDonald had actually carried them out. She went to see the bodies in order to see if they had suffered apparently. She wanted to go and see them a second time, but she thought questions would be asked that she couldn't answer. Why couldn't she answer them? Because she was covering up for Jeremy.

Cognitive dissonance- you should research it

[Adam]

Oh, and if the relationship had been coming to a close for 6 months, why would Jeremy have confided in her, and why would he keep wanting to see her?

He confided in her for the 18 months leading up to the massacre. He kept Julie close to him after the massacre because of this.

They were still together on the 7th August. Julie was more likely to go to the police if Bamber started his post massacre partying without her.

[Kaldin]

Cognitive dissonance- you should research it

She couldn't answer questions because of cognitive dissonance? Please elaborate.

[Kaldin]

He confided in her for the 18 months leading up to the massacre. He kept Julie close to him after the massacre because of this.

They were still together on the 7th August. Julie was more likely to go to the police if Bamber started his post massacre partying without her.

But then he dumped her. Why would he do that just when she was getting cold feet about the whole thing? Why was he still with her on 7th August if the relationship had been going wrong for six months?

[Adam]

You didn't answer my question - who are the other four people she told?

Then there's the issue of him giving her money to compensate for her having time off work after the murders. I'm not sure what work she was doing at the time, but she chose to have time off and spend all her time with a person who was responsible for the vicious murder of five people? That's pretty bizarre isn't it?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6871.msg320376.html#msg320376

You should know these things. After all you are accusing a person of framing a man of murdering 5 members of his family.

[Kaldin]

By the way, in the month it took for Julie Mugford to finally come clean, what was happening about the silencer? That had been found a few days after the murders. Does it really take that long to get lab results back, and did Julie Mugford know about the evidence of the silencer when she went to the police?

[nugnug]

I can understand a jilted girlfriend in anger making up lies about her boyfriend that she later could not go back  on for fear repercussions much more than understand somone coldly standing by and allowing a whole family to be killed.

[Kaldin]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6871.msg320376.html#msg320376

You should know these things. After all you are accusing a person of framing a man of murdering 5 members of his family.

I've done nothing of the kind. You should think about what you're saying.

[Kaldin]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6871.msg320376.html#msg320376

You should know these things. After all you are accusing a person of framing a man of murdering 5 members of his family.

Can you post a link to the evidence that she told five people rather than a thread with your claim that she did? Thanks. I'm not disputing it, I'm just asking.