The Bible

[Adam]

Why would Jeremy put it away and not get rid of it?

Was her blood in it though?

Here's what was said in 2002 re the silencer when it was examined at the time:

Here's what was said when it was tested years later:

Bamber put it away almost hidden because he didn't think it was an issue.

It was Sheila's blood inside the silencer.

[Adam]

DNA is nothing to do with blood in the silencer.

If June's DNA was in the silencer it re affirms the silencer was used on the night. Although DNA can get transferred around by different methods.

[Kaldin]

Wow Kaldin that is so interesting and totally new to me thanks so much for posting it

That appeal document is very long and detailed, but it's worth trawling through. 

Anyway, it all brings me back to the same question really. If Jeremy put the moderator in the cupboard, it could only be because he realised that Sheila's blood could be in it, otherwise he would have just left it by Sheila's body - to give the impression that she had tried to shoot herself but couldn't reach so took the silencer off it.

If he realised there could be blood in it, why on earth did he not dispose of it?

[Kaldin]

DNA is nothing to do with blood in the silencer.

If June's DNA was in the silencer it re affirms the silencer was used on the night. Although DNA can get transferred around by different methods.

The appeal court went into the issue of whether the DNA came from blood or not, and concluded that it probably did. It was me who questioned that actually. Are you now saying that the DNA could have got in there another way?

[Kaldin]

Bamber put it away almost hidden because he didn't think it was an issue.

It was Sheila's blood inside the silencer.

Then why didn't he just leave it next to Sheila's body if he didn't think it was an issue?

[David1819]

DNA is nothing to do with blood in the silencer.

If June's DNA was in the silencer it re affirms the silencer was used on the night. Although DNA can get transferred around by different methods.

Since the DNA was not blood based it supports the latter.

[Kaldin]

I'll just add that they couldn't test it directly for June's DNA, they had to use DNA from her sister, Pamela.

[susan]

That appeal document is very long and detailed, but it's worth trawling through. 

Anyway, it all brings me back to the same question really. If Jeremy put the moderator in the cupboard, it could only be because he realised that Sheila's blood could be in it, otherwise he would have just left it by Sheila's body - to give the impression that she had tried to shoot herself but couldn't reach so took the silencer off it.

If he realised there could be blood in it, why on earth did he not dispose of it?

Kaldin the more I think about it the more I am convinced the silencer was not used.  If JB did murder his family he would not have left the silencer with evidence in it he would not have handed to keys over to the family for them to look around the house.  What were they doing looking in that cupboard anyway it was a deep cupboard I believe under the stairs and the silencer was found at the back of the cupboard what did they expect to find bet they never expected to find a silencer with blood and a grey hair on the end like a blob of jam

[Adam]

Then why didn't he just leave it next to Sheila's body if he didn't think it was an issue?

Because he knew people would ask if Sheila knew how to take the silencer off.

Not having a silencer on display also deflects attention away from Bamber as he would definately use a silencer.

He may have taken the silencer off downstairs prior to burning Nevill's back. And simply put it away.

Why do people try to make a straight forward inheritance killing into a big conspiracy.

[Kaldin]

Kaldin the more I think about it the more I am convinced the silencer was not used.  If JB did murder his family he would not have left the silencer with evidence in it he would not have handed to keys over to the family for them to look around the house.  What were they doing looking in that cupboard anyway it was a deep cupboard I believe under the stairs and the silencer was found at the back of the cupboard what did they expect to find bet they never expected to find a silencer with blood and a grey hair on the end like a blob of jam

I'm also surprised that Jeremy let them go poking around. It was only days after the murders, and they apparently went there to take an inventory of some kind. The executor was also there. I wouldn't have let people in so quickly after such a tragedy, especially if I'd done it - not that I would do anything like that of course. If he killed the family for the money and the valuables, why let the family in to go through it all like that?

[Steve_uk]

I'm also surprised that Jeremy let them go poking around. It was only days after the murders, and they apparently went there to take an inventory of some kind. The executor was also there. I wouldn't have let people in so quickly after such a tragedy, especially if I'd done it - not that I would do anything like that of course. If he killed the family for the money and the valuables, why let the family in to go through it all like that?

I think he'd gone through the house first and taken much of the most valuable stuff.

[Kaldin]

Because he knew people would ask if Sheila knew how to take the silencer off.

Not having a silencer on display also deflects attention away from Bamber as he would definately use a silencer.

He may have taken the silencer off downstairs prior to burning Nevill's back. And simply put it away.

Why do people try to make a straight forward inheritance killing into a big conspiracy.

Surely the silencer was easy to take off - didn't it unscrew? If he took the silencer off before he shot Sheila, her blood couldn't have been in it as you claim it was, or are you now claiming that he killed Sheila before he killed Nevill?

[Kaldin]

I think he'd gone through the house first and taken much of the most valuable stuff.

Had he? Someone said that he didn't want to go in the house, which is why he let the others go in. Why did he let them in then? It was nothing to do with them - he was the beneficiary.

[Adam]

I'm also surprised that Jeremy let them go poking around. It was only days after the murders, and they apparently went there to take an inventory of some kind. The executor was also there. I wouldn't have let people in so quickly after such a tragedy, especially if I'd done it - not that I would do anything like that of course. If he killed the family for the money and the valuables, why let the family in to go through it all like that?

Bamber was busy partying. I thought Basil Cock was Bamber's lawyer.

[Steve_uk]

Had he? Someone said that he didn't want to go in the house, which is why he let the others go in. Why did he let them in then? It was nothing to do with them - he was the beneficiary.

Either he had a key of his own or he entered via a means he had done as a teenager-namely the windows. Some silverware had disappeared along with the video recorder in the lounge by the time Ann and David went in.