The Bible

[Roch]

Oh, thank you. Are you referring to the bit where Delgado accepts that nothing had been moved, although he still has doubts? I wonder what he'd say now, along with the others.

Referring to - Adams, Collins, Delgado all pointing out anomalies which becamse collective 'real concerns'.   In addition, Miller's recollection is also anomalous to the crime scene photographs.

[Kaldin]

Referring to - Adams, Collins, Delgado all pointing out anomalies which becamse collective 'real concerns'.   In addition, Miller's recollection is also anomalous to the crime scene photographs.

Yes. They do seem to remember different things. What I need is a reason for the police or anyone to move the Bible closer to Sheila.

[Roch]

Yes. They do seem to remember different things. What I need is a reason for the police or anyone to move the Bible closer to Sheila.

To conceal the distinctive bloodstain on the carpet from crime scene photography.  Jeremy Bamber has no reason to conceal a distinctive bloodstain.

You might also need a reason for police to place a rifle atop her corpse - as two to three officers question its position and one cant even recollect it at all.   

[Adam]

Yes. They do seem to remember different things. What I need is a reason for the police or anyone to move the Bible closer to Sheila.

There is no reason.

[lookout]

I think that everyone perhaps thought it was Sheila who was the " religious fanatic ",which possibly was the first pointer to the tragedy having been 4 murders and a suicide ?

[Kaldin]

To conceal the distinctive bloodstain on the carpet from crime scene photography.  Jeremy Bamber has no reason to conceal a distinctive bloodstain.

You might also need a reason for police to place a rifle atop her corpse - as two to three officers question its position and one cant even recollect it at all.

Why would they need to hide the bloodstain?

[buddy]

Why would they need to hide the bloodstain?

I don't think anyone was trying to conceal the blood stain, because at that point they were considering murder/suicide, and never properly handled the crime scene.

[Kaldin]

Looking very closely at the photos, is that a small trickle of blood I can see on the Bible right next to the trickle on her arm? If it is, it would suggest that the Bible was indeed there when she was bleeding, although the small trickle on the Bible isn't quite lined up properly. Perhaps it's not blood at all?

[Kaldin]

I don't think anyone was trying to conceal the blood stain, because at that point they were considering murder/suicide, and never properly handled the crime scene.

I agree. It's such a pity they didn't do things more thoroughly.

[Jane]

I agree. It's such a pity they didn't do things more thoroughly.

But they didn't need to, did they? Jeremy had made heavy suggestions about what they'd be likely to find. It would have appeared that he'd been correct.

[Roch]

Why would they need to hide the bloodstain?

If they were trying to conceal the blood stain... then the displaying of the bloodstain within crime scene photography was probably not conducive to the police version of events within the farmhouse.

I think any person has to ask - is it purely concidence - that the ostentatious position of the bible just happens to virtually cover the bloodstain in question? 

[Roch]

But they didn't need to, did they? Jeremy had made heavy suggestions about what they'd be likely to find. It would have appeared that he'd been correct.

Are they not trained to treat 'heavy suggestions' with caution?  Are they so easily to duped en masse?  Hundreds of years of policing experience between them - and they are susceptible to 'heavy suggestions'.

[guest2181]

Looking very closely at the photos, is that a small trickle of blood I can see on the Bible right next to the trickle on her arm? If it is, it would suggest that the Bible was indeed there when she was bleeding, although the small trickle on the Bible isn't quite lined up properly. Perhaps it's not blood at all?

I'm not sure, it could just be ink on the written note in the bible?

[Jane]

Are they not trained to treat 'heavy suggestions' with caution?  Are they so easily to duped en masse?  Hundreds of years of policing experience between them - and they are susceptible to 'heavy suggestions'.

How did Hitler manage to dupe the majority of the German population?

[Kaldin]

But they didn't need to, did they? Jeremy had made heavy suggestions about what they'd be likely to find. It would have appeared that he'd been correct.

The police should never take anyone's word for anything. They were criticised later.