The Bible

[Kaldin]

You assume that the person holding the bible must have blood on their finger tips, they don't have to.

You also assume the person holding the bible must grasp it from the covers, they don't have to.

You also assume the bible must have been held while folded and not folded outwards.

There is quite a quantity of blood at the top of the page, so please tell me how that got there from someone's had without any going on the cover. How does someone open a book without touching the cover?

I didn't understand your last point.

[Adam]

No police have said they moved the bible.

It only be concluded the bible was over Sheila's arm because Bamber put it there.

[guest2181]

The door from the box room? Did they go into the bedroom that way?

The firearms team went in to that room when searching the house to make it safe. I expect they went through that door in both directions at some point.

[Kaldin]

Looking at the photos, it's possible that the Bible was nudged by someone either coming in or going out of that door. Whether it would be enough to move it is questionable.

[guest2181]

Did the police enter through this door ?

How can opening that door move a heavy book onto Sheila's arm ?

I'm not saying they did.

But it's 'possible' that the position of the bible was inadvertently moved by the firearms team.

[buddy]

The door next to the bible I presume.

By the way the pages are folded back it looks like the bible slid from the body.

[Kaldin]

By the way the pages are folded back it looks like the bible slid from the body.

Yes it does. Now I have to figure out where it could have been on the body and how it got there.

[Adam]

I'm not saying they did.

But it's 'possible' that the position of the bible was inadvertently moved by the firearms team.

That is being very optimistic again from supporterse.

None of the police have said they moved anything in the main bedroom, prior to the crime scene photographer arriving. Either accidentially or deliberately.

Therefore the photographic bible location evidence again shows Bamber is the killer.

[buddy]

Yes it does. Now I have to figure out where it could have been on the body and how it got there.

It could have been on top of the body, but with the rifle/hands being moved it became dislodged.
The police might have even moved it to get a better photo of the body.

[Adam]

It could have been on top of the body, but with the rifle/hands being moved it became dislodged.
The police might have even moved it to get a better photo of the body.

If the bible was on top of Sheila's body, that just makes Bamber's guilt even more established.

There is no chance of the bible landing on top of Sheila after she killed herself.

But as said, no police have said they moved the bible prior to the photographer arriving.

[Kaldin]

It could have been on top of the body, but with the rifle/hands being moved it became dislodged.
The police might have even moved it to get a better photo of the body.

Hmm, if it was on her body, would it not have needed to be quite high up on her chest? She might have had it on her lap, but in that case it would have ended up near her hips.

[Adam]

The photographic evidence of the bible shows it was put there by Bamber.

Supporters have to say the police moved the bible onto Sheila's arm and have since lied and said they didn't.

[Roch]

Hmm, if it was on her body, would it not have needed to be quite high up on her chest? She might have had it on her lap, but in that case it would have ended up near her hips.

Did you see the link I put on for you further up?

[Kaldin]

Did you see the link I put on for you further up?

Oh, thank you. Are you referring to the bit where Delgado accepts that nothing had been moved, although he still has doubts? I wonder what he'd say now, along with the others.

[buddy]

Hmm, if it was on her body, would it not have needed to be quite high up on her chest? She might have had it on her lap, but in that case it would have ended up near her hips.

Yes quite high up enough to get blood on the page, and when it fell it left those blood trails on her arm.