Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?

[Reader]

. . . they can't have the same view of the sun and the moon at the same time, it's impossible! . . . I say, they both cannot have the same view simultaneously to one another!

My question wasn't intended to be about the moon at all, and the question didn't intend to refer to any  comparison between the sun and the moon or between an observation of the sun and an observation of the moon. I didn't suggest anything was the same about the observations. I specifically stated that the observers have different locations, so one observer could well observe the sun to have a somewhat different elevation, direction and angular width from the elevation, direction and angular width of the sun as observed by the other observer. I used the phrase "somewhat different", as it's obvious that observers who happened to be located very near each other might make very nearly the same observations. The observers could be, say, 70 miles apart from each other, and they could also be at different altitudes. They make their observations at about the same time (I didn't need to state simultaneously), and on the same day, and their observations needn't be exceptionally precise, but precise enough for "somewhat different" to mean more different than could be due merely to "experimental error" or a slight difference in time. I didn't suggest that both observers have the same view of the sun, but they both have a clear view, so that they can make observations of its direction, elevation and angular width. They both have good eyesight and good measuring instruments. I'm not asking whether their observations can be identical or nearly identical, but whether they can all be somewhat different in the circumstances described. Is that possible? If not, why not?

[mike tesko]

It's not me who is guilty of that - although I will agree, there is a lot of it having been spoke recently!

Yeah, by people who say or believe that Admiral Byrds expedition did not get attacked by so called 'UFOs' at the south pole and that a destroyer, other boats and planes, and lives lost in that confrontation - it clearly did happen, and those of you who pretend it didn't are not being entirely honest! It seems your taking the stance of America in not reporting it, not wanting to acknowledge that this event really had and did take place on the 26th February, 1947, a week after Admiral Byrd himself wrote out his Diary entries 19th / 20th February, 1947! Now, you can try to twist and distort anything you want regarding the 'missing' Admiral Byrds Diaries, by claiming there suppose to be missing, and try to make as much fun as possible over your absurd claim that 'if the Diaries are missing, how come  the one dated 19th / 20th February, 1947 has surfaced'? You know as well as I do that because his Diary entries 19th / 20th February, 1947 have surfaced that they can't be 'missing'! The 'missing' Diary entries of real significance and importance are the ones he pencilled on the 26th February 1947, and shortly afterwards...

I have already provided you with the necessary links, to read the Diary entries for 19th / 20th February 1947, and the other link which contains real time footage of the UFO attack upon Admiral Byrds fleet on the 26th February, 1947! You can choose to ignore the compelling evidence provided  as much as you like, that's your problem not mine - You don't want to believe anything that challenges the system that has conditioned you, and indoctrinated you, you are in my opinion restricted in the ability to reason logically! You are so far indoctrinated by the system that you will do and say anything to oppose any view or evidence which puts the powers that be (that you and people like you idolise) at peril of being exposed as a sham, a deception, a lie, people who have these traits can never contribute to changing the world as we know it, you are stuck, you are trapped in your own mind, and no matter what you believe in, that  everything the system has taught you, and continues to bombard you with!

The earth is flat, is can't be a globed module, its impossible. I have worked this out using my own intelligence, I don't really need to rely upon YOU TUBE videos to back up what my own intelligence tells me, but I do so because that appears to be the medium that you and those like you can relate to - the problem is even when you are faced off with such evidence you choose to dismiss it without any of your own examples put forward! All your doing is trying to protect the status quo, the view and indoctrination of the powers that be, that has been controlling you, and others like you, all of your lives!

Your trapped, your indoctrinated, your set in your ways, you haven't got a clue what the truth is, other than a biased one!

You can't think for yourself!

I don't hold that against you, or anybody else, since the system which has controlled you, and is controlling you, that has looked after you, and made you feel 'well off' and given you a good standard of living, makes you feel safe, and comfortable!

Great!

Long may it continue (in your reality)...

[Caroline]

Yeah, by people who say or believe that Admiral Byrds expedition did not get attacked by so called 'UFOs' at the south pole and that a destroyer, other boats and planes, and lives lost in that confrontation - it clearly did happen, and those of you who pretend it didn't are not being entirely honest! It seems your taking the stance of America in not reporting it, not wanting to acknowledge that this event really had and did take place on the 26th February, 1947, a week after Admiral Byrd himself wrote out his Diary entries 19th / 20th February, 1947! Now, you can try to twist and distort anything you want regarding the 'missing' Admiral Byrds Diaries, by claiming there suppose to be missing, and try to make as much fun as possible over your absurd claim that 'if the Diaries are missing, how come  the one dated 19th / 20th February, 1947 has surfaced'? You know as well as I do that because his Diary entries 19th / 20th February, 1947 have surfaced that they can't be 'missing'! The 'missing' Diary entries of real significance and importance are the ones he pencilled on the 26th February 1947, and shortly afterwards...

I have already provided you with the necessary links, to read the Diary entries for 19th / 20th February 1947, and the other link which contains real time footage of the UFO attack upon Admiral Byrds fleet on the 26th February, 1947! You can choose to ignore the compelling evidence provided  as much as you like, that's your problem not mine - You don't want to believe anything that challenges the system that has conditioned you, and indoctrinated you, you are in my opinion restricted in the ability to reason logically! You are so far indoctrinated by the system that you will do and say anything to oppose any view or evidence which puts the powers that be (that you and people like you idolise) at peril of being exposed as a sham, a deception, a lie, people who have these traits can never contribute to changing the world as we know it, you are stuck, you are trapped in your own mind, and no matter what you believe everything the system has taught you, and continues to bombard you with!

The earth is flat, is can't be a globed module its impossible, I have worked this out using my own intelligence, I don't really need to rely upon YOU TUBE videos to back up what my own intelligence tells me, but I do so because that appears to be the medium that you and those like you can relate to - the problem is even when you are faced off with such evidence you choose to dismiss it without any of your own examples put forward! All your doing is trying to protect the status quo, the view and indoctrination of the powers that be, that has been controlling you and others like you all of your lives!

Your trapped, your indoctrinated, your set in your ways, you haven't got a clue what the truth is, other than a biased one!

You can't think for yourself!

I don't hold that against you, or anybody else, since the system which has controlled you, and is controlling you, has looked after you and made you feel 'well off' and given you a good standard of living!

Great!

Long may it continue...

I honestly don't think you believe any of this stuff. Still, it's a free country, if you want to continue posting this nonsense, carry on. I'm done with this thread. By the way, my standard of living is achieved by working hard and SFA to do with the shape of the SPHERICAL planet.

[mike tesko]

Your view of reality, and those just like you - 'The earth is a globe', at anyone time there are observers stood on the face of the curved earth, who are standing the right way up, who are standing sideways on to the right, who are standing upside down, and who are standing sideways on to the left, and varying degrees the right way up, to the right, upside down, and to the left! Not only that / this, but depending upon who is doing the observing, an observer upon any part of the curved earth, can be the right way up, sideways on to the right, upside down, and sideways on to the left, or varying degrees of these positions! Lets take it further, just so we have the fuller picture, birds on one part of the curved earth, as opposed to and in relation to the position of birds upon or in another part of the curved earth. Birds flying the right way up, sideways on to the right, upside down, sideways on to the left, and varying degrees of the right way up, sideways on to the right, upside down, and sideways on to the left! It rains (according to the chosen masses, the special ones amongst us) the right way up in one part of the world, it rains sideways on to the right in another part of the world, it rains upside down in yet another part of the world, and it rains sideways on to the left in yet another different part of the world, or varying degrees of it raining down, sideways on to the right, up, and sideways on to the left! Lets take another example, of the nonsense which those who subscribe to the earth being a globed module commit their entire conscious mind to...

Aeroplanes fly the right way up, they fly sideways on to the right, they fly upside down, they fly sideways on to the left, or varying degrees of flying the right way up, or flying sideways to the right, or flying upside down, and flying sideways onto the the left, all at the same time! Lets hit the nail on the head, an aeroplane could be flying the right way up, be flying sideways on to the right, be flying upside down, be flying sideways on to the left, at one and the same time, depending upon who is observing who?

The list is endless, insects walking, crawling, hopping, flying, and plants, shrubs and trees, growing and flourishing, not to mention the sun and the moon rising or falling the right way up, rising or falling sideways on to the right, rising or falling upside down, and or rising and falling sideways on to the left, or varying degrees of the right way up, sideways on to the right, upside down, and sideways on to the left!

You are all 'nutcases'...

In the flat earth module - up is up, to the right is to the right, upside down is upside down, to the left sideways, is to the left sideways, and any varying degree of being upright, sideways on to the right, upside down, and sideways on to the left, is simply just as it says or could be suggested that it is!

Those who believe in a globed earth module are absolutely bonkers!

[mike tesko]

I honestly don't think you believe any of this stuff. Still, it's a free country, if you want to continue posting this nonsense, carry on. I'm done with this thread. By the way, my standard of living is achieved by working hard and SFA to do with the shape of the SPHERICAL planet.

Run away from the truth - that''s all you people can do, you have not been indoctrinated to accept the actual truth, you resort to tactics of ridicule to try and attack an opponent or somebody speaking about things which you are not suppose to know about, or take an interest in...

The following is true...Your view of reality, and those just like you - 'The earth is a globe, at anyone time there are observers stood on the face of the curved earth, who are standing the right way up, who are standing sideways on to the right, who are standing upside down, and who are standing sideways on to the left, and varying degrees the right way up, to the right, upside down, and to the left! Not only that / this, but depending upon who is doing the observing, an observer upon any part of the curved earth, can be the right way up, sideways on to the right, upside down, and sideways on to the left, or varying degrees of these positions! Lets take it further, just so we have the fuller picture, birds on one part of the curved earth, as opposed to and in relation to the position of birds upon or in another part of the curved earth. Birds flying the right way up, sideways on to the right, upside down, sideways on to the left, and varying degrees of the right way up, sideways on to the right, upside down, and sideways on to the left! It rains (according to the chosen masses, the special ones amongst us) the right way up in one part of the world, it rains sideways on to the right in another part of the world, it rains upside down in yet another part of the world, and it rains sideways on to the left in yet another different part of the world, or varying degrees of it raining down, sideways on to the right, up, and sideways on to the left! Lets take another example, of the nonsense which those who subscribe to the earth being a globed module commit their entire conscious mind to...

Aeroplanes fly the right way up, they fly sideways on to the right, they fly upside down, they fly sideways on to the left, or varying degrees of flying the right way up, or flying sideways to the right, or flying upside down, and flying sideways onto the the left, all at the same time! Lets hit the nail on the head, an aeroplane could be flying the right way up, be flying sideways on to the right, be flying upside down, be flying sideways on to the left, at one and the same time, depending upon who is observing who?

The list is endless, insects walking, crawling, hopping, flying, and plants, shrubs and trees, growing and flourishing, not to mention the sun and the moon rising or falling the right way up, rising or falling sideways on to the right, rising or falling upside down, and or rising and falling sideways on to the left, or varying degrees of the right way up, sideways on to the right, upside down, and sideways on to the left!

You are all 'nutcases'...

In the flat earth module - up is up, to the right is to the right, upside down is upside down, to the left sideways, is to the left sideways, and any varying degree of being upright, sideways on to the right, upside down, and sideways on to the left, is simply just as it says or could be suggested that it is!

Those who believe in a globed earth module are absolutely bonkers!

[mike tesko]

Nobody can be standing the right way up, or be standing sideways to the right, or standing upside down, and or, standing sideways to the left, or be standing at varying degrees of standing the right way up, standing sideways on to the right, standing upside down down, or standing sideways on to the left, at one and the exact same time, to suggest otherwise is total bunkum!

'Your Having a Laugh, surely'?

[mike tesko]

Ok, you experimental subjects of the powers that be, so we have data being transferred via 'different types of technology', from different parts of the world to another!

Pictures, video, spread sheet, intelligence, almost anything you can begin to image possible (maybe the indoctrinated can't even think that far a head). This 'data', in the globed module, in whatever format, is supposedly transmitted, the right way up, it is transmitted sideways on to the right, it is transmitted upside down, it is transmitted sideways on to the left, all at the same time, or varying degrees of it being transmitted the right way up, being transmitted sideways on to the right, being transmitted upside down, and being transmitted sideways on to the left, all at the same time - 'Are you people  for real?

[mike tesko]

Ok, you experimental subjects of the powers that be, so we have data being transferred via 'different types of technology', from different parts of the world to another!

Pictures, video, spread sheet, intelligence, almost anything you can begin to image possible (maybe the indoctrinated can't even think that far a head). This 'data', in the globed module, in whatever format, is supposedly transmitted, the right way up, it is transmitted sideways on to the right, it is transmitted upside down, it is transmitted sideways on to the left, all at the same time, or varying degrees of it being transmitted the right way up, being transmitted sideways on to the right, being transmitted upside down, and being transmitted sideways on to the left, all at the same time - 'Are you people  for real?

Could somebody from the indoctrinated side please explain to me in plain and basic English what programming exists in 'Information Technology' which switches data of this nature so that it is always received 'THE RIGHT WAY UP' at every location upon the earth by an observer, at one and the same time!!!

Please don't quote 'GRAVITY' because there no such thing as defined by the powers that be, and believed and accepted by the indoctrinated!!

[mike tesko]

Could somebody from the indoctrinated side please explain to me in plain and basic English what programming exists in 'Information Technology' which switches data of this nature so that it is always received 'THE RIGHT WAY UP' at every location upon the earth by an observer, at one and the same time!!!

Please don't quote 'GRAVITY' because there no such thing as defined by the powers that be, and believed and accepted by the indoctrinated!!

WE are truly talking about 'electromagnetic forces' when Gravity is being spoken about!

[mike tesko]

WE are truly talking about 'electromagnetic forces' when Gravity is being spoken about!

Lets put it this way, if every time the word 'gravity' is mentioned, you substituted it, and replaced 'it' by reference to 'ELECTROMAGNETIC FORCE', that would be more accurate than what the powers that be have indoctrinated the masses, to believe and accept...

[mike tesko]

There exists an 'ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD' around everything in existence upon the earth!, no matter how big, or how small...

'Gravity' doesn't exist in the format the masses have been brainwashed by...

[mike tesko]

There exists an 'ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD' around everything in existence upon the earth!, no matter how big, or how small...

'Gravity' doesn't exist in the format the masses have been brainwashed by...

Any 'ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD' can be 'enhanced', or 'reduced' by technology which the powers that be (in whatever format, or presentation) affecting its existence in the real / true world...

[mike tesko]

Nazi Germany 'had Scientists' and 'various experts' in different fields of expertise,  working on this technique, 'before', and 'during' World War two...

The 'technique' in question related to the alteration of an objects 'electromagnetic field'..

[mike tesko]

Nazi Germany 'had Scientists' and 'various experts' in different fields of expertise,  working on this technique, 'before', and 'during' World War two...

The 'technique' in question related to the alteration of an objects 'electromagnetic field'..

There exists around and involving everything in existence having an 'electromagnetic field' around it, and relating to it...

The 'manipulation' of this 'electromagnetic field'  of say one object or another, can 'merge' two or more objects into the same event horizon as easily as using a dial on a piece of equipment at their disposal...

[mike tesko]

There exists around and involving everything in existence having an 'electromagnetic field' around it, and relating to it...

The 'manipulation' of this 'electromagnetic field'  of say one object or another, can 'merge' two or more objects into the same event horizon as easily as using a dial on a piece of equipment at their disposal...

'WHO' are they?