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Offline Jan

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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #120 on: August 04, 2017, 10:54:PM »
Julie was tipped off & saving her skin because -

She knew Bamber was guilty & should have told the police earlier.

Bamber was innocent but she wanted to save her skin from minor crimes from months & years ago. Which the police didn't know about. So attempted to frame an innocent man.

Which was it ?

Please don't give me more rubbish.

 Excuse me? Give you more rubbish ?

Why don't you rephrase that .

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« Reply #121 on: August 04, 2017, 10:57:PM »
I've known Ngb long enough to respect his opinion. With relation to what is being discussed on this forum, Ngb would know all about 'deals' police make to get their man, even if they don't really know the person involved is guilty

Barristers know what goes on behind the scenes
There is something in that and every case should be judged on its merits. However nobody has to follow slavishly someone else's opinion on a wink and a nudge.
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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #122 on: August 04, 2017, 11:00:PM »
Excuse me? Give you more rubbish ?

Why don't you rephrase that .

Please answer.

How was Julie saving her skin by approaching the police,  after being tipped off ?
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 11:09:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #123 on: August 04, 2017, 11:10:PM »
Please answer.

How was Julie saving her skin by approaching the police,  after being tipped off ?
I suppose because she got her own story in first, if you're an anti-Julie person.

Offline Jan

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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #124 on: August 04, 2017, 11:13:PM »
Please answer.

How was Julie saving her skin by approaching the police,  after being tipped off ?

Because if she had not she would be charged with him .

And don't accuse me of posting rubbish when you are the worst offender on here .

You start being rude then expect it back .

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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #125 on: August 04, 2017, 11:15:PM »
I suppose because she got her own story in first, if you're an anti-Julie person.

Why approach the police to tell a false story if Bamber had never mentioned the massacre before ?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #126 on: August 04, 2017, 11:17:PM »
Because if she had not she would be charged with him .

And don't accuse me of posting rubbish when you are the worst offender on here .

You start being rude then expect it back .

Don't say 'it's like banging you're head against a brick wall'. It is rude.

So she knew Bamber was guilty & wanted to avoid being charged with withholding evidence. So approached the police & said what she knew. Before they approached her.  After telling 5 people.

That is all I wanted to know.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 11:23:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #127 on: August 04, 2017, 11:22:PM »
Why approach the police to tell a false story if Bamber had never mentioned the massacre before ?
Well she didn't, but it was Liz Rimington who telephoned Police and forced her hand. Fortunately Julie's story tallied with Susan's under separate Police interrogation and the case started there.
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« Reply #128 on: August 04, 2017, 11:24:PM »
Well she didn't, but it was Liz Rimington  who telephoned Police and forced her hand. Fortunately Julie's story tallied with Susan's under separate Police interrogation and the case started there.

Yes. She told Liz Rimmington & was in the room when she phoned Stan Jones. So no hands being forced.

Susan who ?
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 11:25:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #129 on: August 04, 2017, 11:26:PM »
Yes. She told Liz Rimmington & was in the room when she phoned Stan Jones. So no hands being forced.

Susan who ?
Susan Battersby, with whom she committed the cheque book fraud.

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« Reply #130 on: August 04, 2017, 11:28:PM »
Susan Battersby, with whom she committed the cheque book fraud.

The police found out about the cheque book fraud after Julie had completed her WS.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #131 on: August 04, 2017, 11:32:PM »
I agree with Jan.

The relatives had gone to Peter Simpson & may have spoken to Julie, CC, BW etc on the phone - the tip off.

Julie had already spoken to 5 people & wanted to 'save her skin' by going to the police & telling them what she knew. Which she should have done earlier.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 11:32:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #132 on: August 04, 2017, 11:33:PM »
I suppose because she got her own story in first, if you're an anti-Julie person.
I don't understand your comment 'if you're an anti-Julie person'.  Surely the fact is that she had behaved in a criminal way and broken the law and that undeniable whichever way you look at it.

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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #133 on: August 04, 2017, 11:34:PM »
Don't say 'it's like banging you're head against a brick wall'. It is rude.

So she knew Bamber was guilty & wanted to avoid being charged with withholding evidence. So approached the police & said what she knew. Before they approached her.  After telling 5 people.

That is all I wanted to know.

You started it boy child  ;D

She did not approach them first . Fact

And  personally I think she made most of it up to help convict him . IMO  8)

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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #134 on: August 04, 2017, 11:36:PM »
I don't understand your comment 'if you're an anti-Julie person'.  Surely the fact is that she had behaved in a criminal way and broken the law and that undeniable whichever way you look at it.
But this is tied in with the noble cause argument in that the greater public good was to put Bamber behind bars, just as in the 3 Musketeers case it was to prevent an atrocity on the scale of the Manchester Arena bombing.