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Offline Jan

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« Reply #105 on: August 04, 2017, 10:02:PM »
You quoted my post which was to Jan.

Discuss the case rather than try to be a mother hen.

You need a mother hen . To shoo you up outside for a while .

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« Reply #106 on: August 04, 2017, 10:03:PM »
You need a mother hen . To shoo you up outside for a while .

hahaha Jan I have enough hens just now hehehe

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« Reply #107 on: August 04, 2017, 10:06:PM »
hahaha Jan I have enough hens just now hehehe

I meant adam needs one . He spends all day and all night on here . He needs to see daylight . Oops that makes him sound like a vampire

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« Reply #108 on: August 04, 2017, 10:17:PM »
I have no idea what Susan is talking about.

However I would like to know how by telling 5 people & then approaching the police, Julie was saving her skin about previous minor crimes the police didn't know about.

Hopefully someone can give me an answer to my quoted question. 

Also not sure how Julie was saving her skin by approaching the police a month after the massacre. Several people have said she should have done it after arriving at WHF the following morning.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 10:17:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #109 on: August 04, 2017, 10:18:PM »
I meant adam needs one . He spends all day and all night on here . He needs to see daylight . Oops that makes him sound like a vampire

Hahaha or battery operated whoops I,m in trouble ;D

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« Reply #110 on: August 04, 2017, 10:19:PM »
Thought you might give more information. As you were involved in the case.

Anyway that's that then.

The priority was getting the correct person convicted for a 5x massacre. Prosecuting a woman for a minor 1994 cheque book fraud was not as important. Espescially as she was an important witness. Besides which the bank never pressed charges.

You have just had it explained to you quite clearly the numerous serious charges Mugford could face if the police wanted to so do not keep making out the only charge would the cheque book fraud
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #111 on: August 04, 2017, 10:19:PM »
Hopefully someone can give me an answer to my quoted question. 

Also not sure how Julie was saving her skin by approaching the police a month after the massacre. Several people have said she should have done it after arriving at WHF the following morning.

 I just told you .

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« Reply #112 on: August 04, 2017, 10:23:PM »
The point was she turned Queen's evidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_state%27s_evidence

It may be that she potentially faced serious charges, which is what Jeremy Bamber was counting on and explains her reticence for the month in question.

Adam is not wrong: it is you who have either been misinformed or are desperate to deceive.

Oh my god, I cannot believe what I have just read. I was right about you all along
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #113 on: August 04, 2017, 10:26:PM »
Maybe someone Tipped her off that Jeremy was definitely in the frame and about to go down. And that's when she started thinking of saving her own skin , and adam if she had not appeared for the prosecution what would have happened to her?

Or if her evidence had not been convincing enough what would have happened to her?

No one tipped her off. She was with Bamber virtually all the time until she started telling other people after 20 days.

So Bamber was innocent. But Juiie decided to save her own skin a month later on her unrelated minor crimes the police didn't know about. By framing an innocent man.

Smart move.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 10:32:PM by Adam »
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« Reply #114 on: August 04, 2017, 10:33:PM »
Oh my god, I cannot believe what I have just read. I was right about you all along
Jackie the forum should accommodate all personalities as long as nobody is breaking the law.

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« Reply #115 on: August 04, 2017, 10:40:PM »
Maybe someone Tipped her off that Jeremy was definitely in the frame and about to go down. And that's when she started thinking of saving her own skin , and adam if she had not appeared for the prosecution what would have happened to her?

Or if her evidence had not been convincing enough what would have happened to her?

If Julie was tipped off that Bamber was in the frame, the most plausible reason why she would be saving her skin, was if she knew Bamber was guilty.

Julie realising she should have told the police earlier. But better late than never.  An approach & co operation by her is better than waiting for the police to approach her & then stone walling them.

« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 10:41:PM by Adam »
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« Reply #116 on: August 04, 2017, 10:41:PM »
No one tipped her off. She was with Bamber virtually all the time until she started telling other people after 20 days.

So Bamber was innocent. But Juiie decided to save her own skin a month later on her unrelated minor crimes the police didn't know about. By framing an innocent man.

Smart move.

Blimey it's like banging your head against a brick wall.

She admitted she knew he had killed his family
She admitted she knew of his plans
She even condoned understood why he would do it .

So after those 20 days she was accused of withholding evidence she did not go to the police willingly and funnily enough Jeremy was now in the frame and she used the exact same theories in her statements that were in the family notes.

And unless you are the source because you were there then you definitely do not know they were together all of the time ( they broke up by the way ) or whether she had a call from anyone .

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« Reply #117 on: August 04, 2017, 10:43:PM »
If Julie was tipped off that Bamber was in the frame, the most plausible reason why she would be saving her skin, was if she knew Bamber was guilty.

Julie realising she should have told the police earlier. But better late than never & an approach by her is better than waiting for the police to approach her & then stone walling them.


I sincerely hope so . Because if she used other people's theories , as shown by david, or embellished throw away remarks , or told lies to help the police get her man then I don't know how she can live with herself .

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« Reply #118 on: August 04, 2017, 10:46:PM »
Blimey it's like banging your head against a brick wall.

She admitted she knew he had killed his family
She admitted she knew of his plans
She even condoned understood why he would do it .

So after those 20 days she was accused of withholding evidence she did not go to the police willingly and funnily enough Jeremy was now in the frame and she used the exact same theories in her statements that were in the family notes.

And unless you are the source because you were there then you definitely do not know they were together all of the time ( they broke up by the way ) or whether she had a call from anyone .

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Julie was tipped off & saving her skin because -

She knew Bamber was guilty & should have told the police earlier.

Bamber was innocent but she wanted to save her skin from minor crimes from months & years ago. Which the police didn't know about. So attempted to frame an innocent man.

Which was it ?

Please don't give me more rubbish.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 10:47:PM by Adam »
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« Reply #119 on: August 04, 2017, 10:47:PM »
Jackie the forum should accommodate all personalities as long as nobody is breaking the law.

I've known Ngb long enough to respect his opinion. With relation to what is being discussed on this forum, Ngb would know all about 'deals' police make to get their man, even if they don't really know the person involved is guilty

Barristers know what goes on behind the scenes
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000