tonights the night.

[Jan]

Whatever deal the police made with Julie, it was legal. As 32 years later it hasn't been breached.

The only thing relevant is the caravan break in & Julie not approaching the police for a month. The caravan break in relating more to Bamber.

It is a pity NGB couldn't give the forum more information. He just left it to Jan to bring up unrelated apparent drug dealing.

Who said it was illegal ?

And all of the crimes are relevant .

[Steve_uk]

Who said it was illegal ?

And all of the crimes are relevant .

So are you saying that Julie shouldn't have been allowed to testify?

[Jane]

So are you saying that Julie shouldn't have been allowed to testify?

I can't escape the feeling that, if all those who think Jeremy is innocent believed he's in his rightful place, there wouldn't be an argument about what was said -or not- by whom. I feel certain that some of the punishments some would like to see imposed on the police are FAR from legal, but no one seems to worry about that.

[susan]

This is an open forum Susan and if you want it otherwise then go ahead and cleanse it of the troublemakers, though the precedent might come back and bite you.

Steve I agree this is an open forum and I am not suggesting Adam is a trouble maker or indeed any other poster is all I am suggesting to Adam he remembers the word respect and posts accordingly.

[Jan]

So are you saying that Julie shouldn't have been allowed to testify?

Not if she was telling the truth . I was explaining the reasons why sometimes a person might embellish their evidence in order to save their own skin .

[Adam]

Not if she was telling the truth . I was explaining the reasons why sometimes a person might embellish their evidence in order to save their own skin .

The police knew nothing about the 1984 minor cheque book fraud with Susan Battersby until after she had completed her WS.

She told them about the caravan robbery.

The unsourced minor drug taking & college dealing is nothing to do with the massacre & the police didn't know about it.

She had no skin that needed saving when approaching the police.

[Jan]

The police knew nothing about the 1984 minor cheque book fraud with Susan Battersby until after she had completed her WS.

She told them about the caravan robbery.

The unsourced minor drug taking & college dealing is nothing to do with the massacre & the police didn't know about it.

She had no skin that needed saving when approaching the police.

Her friend had allegedly dobbed her in for withholding evidence which as you well know is a crime so she could have been procesuted for that for a  start . And because of the new investigation allegedly the police were on to Jeremy so straight away she became an accessory at the point because she had not come forward on a voluntary basis.

So good job she agreed to appear for the prosecution don't you think?

[Adam]

Her friend had allegedly dobbed her in for withholding evidence which as you well know is a crime so she could have been procesuted for that for a  start . And because of the new investigation allegedly the police were on to Jeremy so straight away she became an accessory at the point because she had not come forward on a voluntary basis.

So good job she agreed to appear for the prosecution don't you think?

If she wanted to save her skin I guess she shouldn't have told 5 people. While still with Bamber. Or approached the police with Liz Rimmington.

[maggie]

This is an open forum Susan and if you want it otherwise then go ahead and cleanse it of the troublemakers, though the precedent might come back and bite you.

True enough Steve but I'm sure susan knows that well enough. 

I cannot see why you should be offended by her post to Adam.  She had a right to express her opinion.

[Jan]

If she wanted to save her skin I guess she shouldn't have told 5 people. While still with Bamber. Or approached the police with Liz Rimmington.

Maybe someone Tipped her off that Jeremy was definitely in the frame and about to go down. And that's when she started thinking of saving her own skin , and adam if she had not appeared for the prosecution what would have happened to her?

Or if her evidence had not been convincing enough what would have happened to her?

[susan]

True enough Steve but I'm sure susan knows that well enough. 

I cannot see why you should be offended by her post to Adam.  She had a right to express her opinion.

Maggie thank you,  I must admit I was quite taken aback at steve,s post as I had not said anything abusive or nasty Adam has used stronger words to others but it was just my opinion that NGB runs this forum with you Maggie and I think you both deserve respect

[Adam]

I have no idea what Susan is talking about.

However I would like to know how by telling 5 people & then approaching the police, Julie was saving her skin about previous minor crimes the police didn't know about.

[Adam]

Adam how arrogant you are to make out you know more about the law than NGB who is a fully qualified experienced Barrister.

You quoted my post which was to Jan.

Discuss the case rather than try to be a mother hen.

[Adam]

1984 minor cheque book fraud. The police found out about it after she had completed her WS. Nothing to do with the massacre - Dismissed.

Burglary - She told the police about Bamber robbing his family. Bamber told her to be a look out. - Dismissed.

Selling cannabis at college - As Bamber did. Source please. However nothing to do with the massacre - Dismissed.

Drug abuse - Just like Bamber again then. Again source please. Nothing to do with the massacre - Dismissed.

Perverting the course of justice - She approached the police after 1 month after telling 5 people while still with Bamber. After Bamber had finally stopped whisking her around England & Amsterdam - Dismissed.

Being an accomplice - She was in London when Bamber massacred everyone - Dismissed.

Making a verbal NOTW deal - As Bamber had also done. Prior to his sick efforts to sell pictures of Sheila to the Sun - Dismissed.

Not sure what is wrong with this.

[susan]

You quoted my post which was to Jan.

Discuss the case rather than try to be a mother hen.

Adam just because I keep hens no need to make me their Mother but they think I am cluck cluck  hehehe