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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2017, 02:55:PM »
if you know a murder is going to happen and you dont do anything about it your ancomplice in law simple as.

doesnt matter how much bullshit you come out with that you dident think theyd go through with it.

Have you got any examples of someone being charged with being an accomplice, due to alledgedly knowing someone was going to committ a crime which had been committed ?

Thought not.
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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #61 on: August 04, 2017, 03:49:PM »
thers a barister on here asking he wil tell you thats the law.

your just digging a hole here.

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« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2017, 04:39:PM »
thers a barister on here asking he wil tell you thats the law.

your just digging a hole here.

You are correct nugnug.  Adam is simply wrong.  I have posted about this at length in the past.  JM potentially faced very serious charges.  If her account is correct she could have been charged as an accomplice to murder (based upon support both before and after the events), or with assisting an offender, or with perverting the course of justice, leaving aside the unrelated deception, burglary and drugs offences.

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« Reply #63 on: August 04, 2017, 05:35:PM »
You are correct nugnug.  Adam is simply wrong.  I have posted about this at length in the past.  JM potentially faced very serious charges.  If her account is correct she could have been charged as an accomplice to murder (based upon support both before and after the events), or with assisting an offender, or with perverting the course of justice, leaving aside the unrelated deception, burglary and drugs offences.

So why wasn't she ?
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« Reply #64 on: August 04, 2017, 05:41:PM »
Heard of bribery and corruption ?

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« Reply #65 on: August 04, 2017, 06:00:PM »
Hopefully NGB will answer.
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« Reply #66 on: August 04, 2017, 06:02:PM »
So why wasn't she ?

It's obvious . There was a deal because she was the main prosecution witness.

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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2017, 06:03:PM »
adam you have no legal qqaulfications you taking to sombody who has plenty what do you think the chances are of you winning this argument/
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« Reply #68 on: August 04, 2017, 06:04:PM »
It's obvious . There was a deal because she was the main prosecution witness.

And what was so surprising about such a deal? It was hardly the first time, and I imagine scores have been done since.

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Re: tonights the night.
« Reply #69 on: August 04, 2017, 06:05:PM »
Hopefully NGB will answer.

Jan has already answered.


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« Reply #70 on: August 04, 2017, 06:06:PM »
Hopefully NGB will answer.

He doesn't have to . You know the answer .

And there were many charges she could have faced as has already been explained.

In the Bentley case it was joint enterprise and he did not even pull the trigger and he was hanged .

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« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2017, 06:07:PM »
And what was so surprising about such a deal? It was hardly the first time, and I imagine scores have been done since.

I did not say it was surprising? I said it was obvious?

However I do believe she was encouraged to embellish her statements . IMO

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« Reply #72 on: August 04, 2017, 06:14:PM »
Jan has already answered.

Thought you might give more information. As you were involved in the case.

Anyway that's that then.

The priority was getting the correct person convicted for a 5x massacre. Prosecuting a woman for a minor 1994 cheque book fraud was not as important. Espescially as she was an important witness. Besides which the bank never pressed charges.
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« Reply #73 on: August 04, 2017, 06:23:PM »
Thought you might give more information. As you were involved in the case.

Anyway that's that then.

The priority was getting the correct person convicted for a 5x massacre. Prosecuting a woman for a minor 1994 cheque book fraud was not as important. Espescially as she was an important witness. Besides which the bank never pressed charges.


Do you want me to do a list of what she could have possibly done a deal on?

Fraud
Burglary
Selling drugs
Drug abuse
Perverting the course of justice
Joint enterprise
Being an accomplice in the murders
Making a deal with a newspaper during a trial

Have I missed anything .

Now if he is guilty people are going to say this is all fine

But if he is innocent it means she made a deal and lied in court .

So a second charge of perverting the course of justice.

Is that clear enough adam

Just statingposible facts , not necessarily and opinion on this .

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« Reply #74 on: August 04, 2017, 06:32:PM »

Do you want me to do a list of what she could have possibly done a deal on?

Fraud
Burglary
Selling drugs
Drug abuse
Perverting the course of justice
Joint enterprise
Being an accomplice in the murders
Making a deal with a newspaper during a trial

Have I missed anything .

Now if he is guilty people are going to say this is all fine

But if he is innocent it means she made a deal and lied in court .

So a second charge of perverting the course of justice.

Is that clear enough adam

Just statingposible facts , not necessarily and opinion on this .

1984 minor cheque book fraud. The police found out about it after she had completed her WS. Nothing to do with the massacre - Dismissed.

Burglary - She told the police about Bamber robbing his family. Bamber told her to be a look out. - Dismissed.

Selling cannabis at college - As Bamber did. Source please. However nothing to do with the massacre - Dismissed.

Drug abuse - Just like Bamber again then. Again source please. Nothing to do with the massacre - Dismissed.

Perverting the course of justice - She approached the police after 1 month after telling 5 people while still with Bamber. After Bamber had finally stopped whisking her around England & Amsterdam - Dismissed.

Being an accomplice - She was in London when Bamber massacred everyone - Dismissed.

Making a verbal NOTW deal - As Bamber had also done. Prior to his sick efforts to sell pictures of Sheila to the Sun - Dismissed.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 06:35:PM by Adam »
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