tonights the night.

[JackieD]

It was the 10 o'clock call so apparently he would be committing the crime later . So in her second statement he is supposedly clearly telling her he is going to carry out the murders that he had been planning and allegedly telling her about for a long time . Crimes with drugs cyanide or burning . She said at one stage she could understand him killing his parents but not the twins . So that contradicts her not believing him as well .


So she knew the date and then in the second call she knew he had done it .

Don't know what to say really .

She lied, then she lied some more and she just couldn't stop lying

[Caroline]

so if that that 10pm call happend she had time to call the police and stop it happening but she chose not wich would make her an acomplice in law.

Or she didn't think he would go through with it.

[Jan]

She was Bamber's girlfriend & didn't think he was serious.

I understand there had been no previous instances of a son murdering his mother, father, sister & two nephews in Essex. At least not in the previous week.

If she rang the police Bamber would 'jilt her'. Which Julie was apparently despatate to avoid. After all Bamber said she's lying because he did 'jilt her'.

How can you say that ? If she was his girlfriend she should have known him very well . According to her statements he give her intricate details and motives including why he would kill the twins . Not just casual throw away comments , details  methods and plans . HE opened up about his family life and how he was allegedly badly treated  and cyaninde burning and drugging were mentioned , and yet you understand why she did not believe him ? Pull the other one .

Someone convinced her he was guilty and how he did it and she saved her life and career by going along with it after she found out he had slept with her friend . imo of course

[Caroline]

How can you say that ? If she was his girlfriend she should have known him very well . According to her statements he give her intricate details and motives including why he would kill the twins . Not just casual throw away comments , details  methods and plans . HE opened up about his family life and how he was allegedly badly treated  and cyaninde burning and drugging were mentioned , and yet you understand why she did not believe him ? Pull the other one .

Someone convinced her he was guilty and how he did it and she saved her life and career by going along with it after she found out he had slept with her friend . imo of course

Could you do that without proof?

[Jan]

Could you do that without proof?

A woman scorned and all that .

She said she could have smothered him so testifying against him would have been easy .

[Caroline]

A woman scorned and all that .

She said she could have smothered him so testifying against him would have been easy .

A woman scorned is just a saying.

She put a pillow over his face - it wasn't an attempt to smother him - that is something that gets dragged out of proportion frequently.

[nugnug]

Or she didn't think he would go through with it.

after 10 pm she clearly knew he would.

but she did nothing and she had plenty of time to phone the police.

[Caroline]

after 10 pm she clearly knew he would.

but she did nothing and she had plenty of time to phone the police.

How do you know?

[nugnug]

what somone bans on for weeks about killing there family and then at they phone you and say tonights the night.

of course you know.

[Adam]

what somone bans on for weeks about killing there family and then at they phone you and say tonights the night.

of course you know.

Don't be so ridiculous. Of course she didn't believe he would massacre his mother, father, sister & two nephews.

She would have started suspecting Bamber had actually gone ahead after he phoned her (again) at 3am.

[Adam]

How can you say that ? If she was his girlfriend she should have known him very well . According to her statements he give her intricate details and motives including why he would kill the twins . Not just casual throw away comments , details  methods and plans . HE opened up about his family life and how he was allegedly badly treated  and cyaninde burning and drugging were mentioned , and yet you understand why she did not believe him ? Pull the other one .

Someone convinced her he was guilty and how he did it and she saved her life and career by going along with it after she found out he had slept with her friend . imo of course

Julie told 5 people what she knew before going to the police. She was still with Bamber. You know this.

No one told her anything. You know this.

You're conspiracy theories do not work.

[Jan]

Don't be so ridiculous. Of course she didn't believe he would massacre his mother, father, sister & two nephews.

She would have started suspecting Bamber had actually gone ahead after he phoned her (again) at 3am.

You are right how ridiculous he would never do that. Exactly !

[Jan]

Julie told 5 people what she knew before going to the police. She was still with Bamber. You know this.

No one told her anything. You know this.

You're conspiracy theories do not work.

 I am getting closer . Davids post really helped clarify a few things 

[nugnug]

Don't be so ridiculous. Of course she didn't believe he would massacre his mother, father, sister & two nephews.

She would have started suspecting Bamber had actually gone ahead after he phoned her (again) at 3am.

what she wouldent belive he was going to rhat after hed been banging on about doing it for weeks and then pjoned and told her he was going to do it.

youd have to be in someway mentally challged not to know what was going to happen. and if she was i doubt if she would of got to be inthe job she now holds.


and the laws pretty clear doing that makes you an acomplice whatever she cliamed to belive.

[Caroline]

You are right how ridiculous he would never do that. Exactly !

She didn't believe he would follow his plan through - and yet, he did.