The Boss

[buddy]

I have thought long and hard about this. It is a fact that if SC is not the killer then only JB remains IMO.
He tells the boss that he is fed up with farm work and needs to get out but has no money.
The boss says well kill them. He says I can't do that. so the boss says I will help.
The boss says I have got some sleeping pills you can use, so he tries, but they don't work.
The boss tells JB to shoot them all and a naïve JB agrees, as long as the boss helps him to cover him.
During the murders JB phones the boss and says it is going well. He phones the boss a while later and says that SC is still alive. The boss says shoot her again.
When the police arrive at the farm JB feels uncertain so calls the boss and says I need you here.
The boss arrives, and comforts JB and tells him to stick to his story.
After a while the police begin to suspect that all is not well with the suicide theory. The family are not happy with the police investigation, and start to look into things. The boss realises that the family are on the right track and needs an out. What to do? Then the boss has a brain wave put JB in the frame alone, and save her skin.
The boss goes to the cops and the rest is history.

[nugnug]

intresting thoery.

[Jan]

Blimey wait till adam sees this . I predict at least 200 reasons why it can't be true

[susan]

Blimey wait till adam sees this . I predict at least 200 reasons why it can't be true

Jan I posted this too (but my connection went down) Adam will be on all night answering why this is not true I told buddy that I think Sheila did murder her family then kill herself and in view of the scratch marks on the back of her hand somebody tried to take the rifle from her and I would suspect it would have been June as Jeremy would not have long nails and he had no marks on him or Julie would have made sure the world and his dog would know about it.

[Adam]

I've no idea what Buddy is trying to say again.

Apart from giving a new version why Bamber committed the massacre. Julie now apparently being the criminal mastermind.

[maggie]

I've no idea what Buddy is trying to say again.

Apart from giving a new version why Bamber committed the massacre. Julie now apparently being the criminal mastermind.

Buddy has made a suggestion that this may have been what happened, that's what the forum is all about...  people sharing their thoughts and opinions not just reading your lists and agreeing with them. 

[susan]

Buddy has made a suggestion that this may have been what happened, that's what the forum is all about...  people sharing their thoughts and opinions not just reading your lists and agreeing with them. 

Maggie I think Adam cannot dispute this scenario so he is side stepping it so as not to agree with it.

[Jan]

I've no idea what Buddy is trying to say again.

Apart from giving a new version why Bamber committed the massacre. Julie now apparently being the criminal mastermind.

So you are not surprised she could be behind it all in this scenario?

[Caroline]

I have thought long and hard about this. It is a fact that if SC is not the killer then only JB remains IMO.
He tells the boss that he is fed up with farm work and needs to get out but has no money.
The boss says well kill them. He says I can't do that. so the boss says I will help.
The boss says I have got some sleeping pills you can use, so he tries, but they don't work.
The boss tells JB to shoot them all and a naïve JB agrees, as long as the boss helps him to cover him.
During the murders JB phones the boss and says it is going well. He phones the boss a while later and says that SC is still alive. The boss says shoot her again.
When the police arrive at the farm JB feels uncertain so calls the boss and says I need you here.
The boss arrives, and comforts JB and tells him to stick to his story.
After a while the police begin to suspect that all is not well with the suicide theory. The family are not happy with the police investigation, and start to look into things. The boss realises that the family are on the right track and needs an out. What to do? Then the boss has a brain wave put JB in the frame alone, and save her skin.
The boss goes to the cops and the rest is history.

Naive? Really? You have just described a complete moron and Jeremy is far from that. In your scenario he is as guilty as hell so I am sure you and all those supporting this notion will agree he deserves to be exactly where he is.  However, he only called Juli .... opps I mean 'the boss' once after 3am so couldn't have called her to say that Sheila was still alive.

[David1819]

I have thought long and hard about this. It is a fact that if SC is not the killer then only JB remains IMO.
He tells the boss that he is fed up with farm work and needs to get out but has no money.
The boss says well kill them. He says I can't do that. so the boss says I will help.
The boss says I have got some sleeping pills you can use, so he tries, but they don't work.
The boss tells JB to shoot them all and a naïve JB agrees, as long as the boss helps him to cover him.
During the murders JB phones the boss and says it is going well. He phones the boss a while later and says that SC is still alive. The boss says shoot her again.
When the police arrive at the farm JB feels uncertain so calls the boss and says I need you here.
The boss arrives, and comforts JB and tells him to stick to his story.
After a while the police begin to suspect that all is not well with the suicide theory. The family are not happy with the police investigation, and start to look into things. The boss realises that the family are on the right track and needs an out. What to do? Then the boss has a brain wave put JB in the frame alone, and save her skin.
The boss goes to the cops and the rest is history.

There is a wide array of reasons for why this theory does not work. But its more plausible than most theories put on this forum. i.e John Sweeney etc

[nugnug]

this theory cant really be debunked becouse theres no way of knowing what was said bettwen them.

so it could of gone like that.

[lebaleb]

Wouldn't 'the boss' have offered Jeremy an alibi?

[nugnug]

Wouldn't 'the boss' have offered Jeremy an alibi?

thats a good point but maybe she feared implicating herself by doing that.

[David1819]

this theory cant really be debunked becouse theres no way of knowing what was said bettwen them.

so it could of gone like that.

Yes it can. The details of the crime do not match Jeremy's alleged 'confession' that Julie claims to have made to her. Jeremy does not have time to ring 'the boss' then shoot Sheila again because she survived the first shot. She would have bled to death within 10 seconds.

The rigor mortis and livor mortis in Sheila and the movement spotted in the house rules Jeremy out. Unless you want to argue that "the boss" hired MM all along and he hid inside the loft once the raid team entered.

If Jeremy was weak minded enough and easily manipulated so JM gets him to carry all this out. He would break under police interrogation like most subordinate participants do.

[Roch]

Yes it can. The details of the crime do not match Jeremy's alleged 'confession' that Julie claims to have made to her. Jeremy does not have time to ring 'the boss' then shoot Sheila again because she survived the first shot. She would have bled to death within 10 seconds.

The rigor mortis and livor mortis in Sheila and the movement spotted in the house rules Jeremy out. Unless you want to argue that "the boss" hired MM all along and he hid inside the loft once the raid team entered.

If Jeremy was weak minded enough and easily manipulated so JM gets him to carry all this out. He would break under police interrogation like most subordinate participants do.

In addition, Sheila has wounds upon the length of her right arm - i.e. from upper arm to wrist; and upon her right hand.  An angled wound upon her finger matches the shape of a machined part on the Anschutz.  Some of her wounds are visible in post-mortem photographs.  These are not the only fight wounds upon her body either.  Of these other wounds, at least one other can be seen in the images on this forum.  The other two adult victims also have fight / defense wounds.

Jeremy had no wounds.  This suggests a struggle took place between three adults who became deceased; and within the context of "daughter gone berserk".

The boss couldn't have arranged this - nobody saw it coming.  Afterwards, the relatives couldn't bring themselves to countenance it...  partly due to their predicament and motives.

I enjoyed reading Buddy's post though - it made me chuckle to myself.